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70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

rob74 wrote: post #410
NikolaeVarius wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes? I wouldn't work for Parler, but I fail to see how the phrase "free speech social network" should elicit some negative emotion. Parler sucks because they are a haven to right wing extremists, not because of their marketing. Its like being angry at Signal because their encryption allows terrorists communicate securely.

Well, free speech is a good thing, if done responsibly. In practice though, "free speech" as used by Parler means no moderation at all, so the most blatant lies and the craziest conspiracy theories can run unchecked. And since mainstream platforms are cracking down on extremists, your platform will inevitably become a haven (and echo chamber) for them, even if you didn't intend to be one.

As others have pointed out, yes they did moderate, just for different things.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by IfOnlyYouKnew »

coldtea wrote: post #393
cactus2093 wrote: post #174

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Ermm, people who are trying to violently and undemocratically install an authoritarian government while using slogans like “6 million was not enough” are literally nazis. You’re gonna have to find another hyperbolically bad thing to accuse your opponents of fear mongering about.

> hyperbolically bad thing You mean like that these group was "violently and undemocratically install an authoritarian government"? Did you feel much scared of the possibility of some dictatorship (as opposed to an act of protest in the congress)? Second, even if they did seriously try to do that, heck, even if they succeeded in establishing an "authoritarian government", that wouldn't be enough to qualify them as "l…

Do you, like, not get the “6 million...” reference?

They also had functioning gallows, and a guy with a taser and zip ties running around in the Senate chamber just minutes after it was evacuated, and lots of “kill Mike Pence” shouting.

Some people were there to take selfies. Others were there to take hostages.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by themaninthedark »

ceejayoz wrote: post #247
throwaway3699 wrote: post #211

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You can't be serious. There were literally millions of users on the platform.

https://www.news10.com/news/us-capitol-coverage/poll-one-fif... > Poll: One-fifth of voters, almost half of Republicans, agree with storming of US Capitol

Data is from: https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/20...

The question asked was: "Supporters of President Trump have stormed the US Capitol to protest lawmakers certifying Joe Biden’s election victory. Based on what you have read or heard about this, do you support or oppose these actions? (%)"

Breakdown groups were: Strongly or somewhat support, Don't know, N/A - Unaware of the story, Strongly or somewhat oppose

I would be interested in seeing the strongly and somewhat support breakdowns. I have no problem with groups protesting elections, I think that the Trump supporters who stormed the Capitol building did the worst thing for their cause.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by cbozeman »

Veen wrote: post #346
mr_overalls wrote: post #173

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> media told me I create a Parler account myself out of curiosity's sake. The platform had basically no moderation, and was rife with open calls to violence. It was absolutely serving as a recruitment & coordination site for domestic terrorism.

Then you should be worried because your employer and family may discover that you were a member of Parler. The "I was just curious" defence might not be as convincing as you think.

LOL, this is as ridiculous as, "You were once handed a leaflet about the Nazi Party in 1937, therefore you are a Nazi."

If we don't move past this kind of absolute nonsense, you really will have a violent confrontation on your hands, because you're going to end up alienating millions.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by ookblah »

marcinzm wrote: post #19
redwine11 wrote: post #3

Sounds like Twillo was actively helping hackers "That allowed them to see which users had moderator rights and this in turn allowed them to reset passwords of existing users with simple “forgot password” function. Since Twilio no longer authenticated emails, hackers were able to access admin accounts with ease."

As I'm reading it, Twilio simply shut down the account, Parler is the one who reacted to that by assuming everything is authenticated if the API doesn't work.

fail open heh

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by whimsicalism »

macintux wrote: post #535
whimsicalism wrote: post #332

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They're just not even remotely the same thing. Nothing like 9/11 or the OKC bombing has happened in the last 19 years; full stop. I have lived in DC my whole life, I hate to see this happening in my city, but we can be honest with ourselves.

This could have led to the public execution of the Vice President and speaker of the house. This came close to being a dramatically worse event.

> This could have led to the public execution of the Vice President and speaker of the house. This came close to being a dramatically worse event.

I remain unconvinced about how close that actually was, nor have I seen a compelling case that it was that close actually made.

Further, before it becomes close to "executing the Vice President", you can bet shots are going to actually be fired. Crowds of rioters behave very differently when gunshots start ringing out.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by julianmarq »

jabberwcky wrote: post #460
whimsicalism wrote: post #451

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So because the owners claim the platform to be something other than it actually is, it is okay for this person to leak the Parler users' private images and videos?

Unfortunately you won't find much interesting commentary in a politically charged thread like this, best to just scan and pattern match the kind of exchanges occurring before moving swiftly along.

> best to just scan and pattern match the kind of exchanges occurring before moving swiftly along.

How do you do that? I've noticed lately that HN commentary (at least in threads like this) has trended increasingly pro-censorship[1] lately, and it's pretty disheartening to read.

Would rather do something like what you say, but I'm not quite sure what you mean.

[1]: Which is a bit ironic, thinking about it.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by notJim »

liminal wrote: post #475
tomp wrote: post #471

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Based on the screenshot you linked to, their "moderation" categories are "spam", "ads", "impersonation", "defamation", "nudity", "pornography", "illegal", "terrorism", "trademark" and "threat". Can you please explain how they use that to "ensure ideological conformity in their posts"?

In the tweet text it says "all new users start out shadowbanned until enough of their post get approved for rightthink by their user moderators"

Did they provide any evidence of that, or was it just editorializing? It's not uncommon for new users to start out with limited privileges on some platforms for spam and fraud prevention reasons.
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