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Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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The name was approved by Apple years ago. The developer built the brand on that name. What changed? Apple's policies (on their whims). If Apple has to come down hard, they should bear the cost of the re-branding at least to measurably communicating widely regarding the rename. It is sad that Apple exercises so much power callously.

"The name was approved by Apple years ago" This isn't going to be popular, however getting away with something for a period of time is not the same as being approved/sanctioned/etc. In the petition the author claimed that the app "spontaneously began violating" one of the guidelines, when clearly it has violated it all along. Yet that disingenuous angle is used constantly when people get away with something for a whi…

The app was _featured_ in the App Store. They didn’t get away with anything.

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Do you expect to see a box on a shelf of any retail store labeled, “Amphetamine” with a colorful picture of drugs? It’s entirely reasonable for the retail store to tell the vendor to rename the product or else it will be removed from the shelf.

It is unreasonable when the store is the only store in town, and the town (Apple ecosystem) ensures monopoly of that single store.

You can download Mac apps outside of the Mac App Store.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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I download and use the app despite the name. I’m not okay with it, but I need the features it offers and there isn’t a better alternative with a better name. There used to be (called Caffeine) but it disappeared from the store and I’m not sure why. Just because people use the app doesn’t mean they like the name.

Why aren’t you okay with Amphetamine?

I use it on my work computer and it's not a word I'm comfortable showing to clients. You never know who may have had (or still does have) an addiction, and I also don't want them seeing it and thinking I have an addiction since that could be bad for business.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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I've used this application and the one that came before, caffeine, and in my opinion Apple shouldn't remove it. It would've been different if it was rejected as soon as it was submitted to the Apple store... But after 6 years it's very unfair, after it has built a brand identity and a community.

That said there's a command line application that comes with MacOS X called caffeinate that does essentially the same thing.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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In their environment that they clearly indicate is their environment from the outset? Yes.. They are not telling the author they can't call his app whatever they want. They are saying they will not sell it in their app store under that name. And that's the bargain you enter into when you sell in a walled garden ecosystem.

They are also doing everything they can to block people from distributing apps outside of their walled garden. So they are in fact telling the author that he can't call his app whatever he wants. Because if he does, they will do everything they can to prevent anyone else from ever using that app.

>They are also doing everything they can to block people from distributing apps outside of their walled garden.

People keep saying that but nothing on my Mac has ever stopped me from installing whatever software I want. I wish people would stop repeating this lie.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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I download and use the app despite the name. I’m not okay with it, but I need the features it offers and there isn’t a better alternative with a better name. There used to be (called Caffeine) but it disappeared from the store and I’m not sure why. Just because people use the app doesn’t mean they like the name.

The caffeinate command is built into macos. Edit: This keeps the computer awake until 6 PM each day. caffeinate -u -i -s -t $(($(date -j -f "%a %b %d %T %Z %Y" "$(date +"%a %b %d 18:00:00 %Z %Y")" "+%s") - $(date +%s)))

That command makes me really glad Amphetamine exists.

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My grocery store sells an energy drink called liquid death.

I’m pretty sure that Liquid Death is just water.

Well, your body needs water to survive, so water could be called an energy drink for when you’re dehydrated /s

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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In their environment that they clearly indicate is their environment from the outset? Yes.. They are not telling the author they can't call his app whatever they want. They are saying they will not sell it in their app store under that name. And that's the bargain you enter into when you sell in a walled garden ecosystem.

They are also doing everything they can to block people from distributing apps outside of their walled garden. So they are in fact telling the author that he can't call his app whatever he wants. Because if he does, they will do everything they can to prevent anyone else from ever using that app.

They probably want their users to use their proprietary store, but I got a new MacBook Pro for work in September and I installed everything I needed and wanted using Hombrew and brew cask, so I didn't use the Apple Store at all. You can also Download .dmf files and install Apps that way. What is it that you say they do to prevent people installing Apps outside the Apple Store?

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Yeah. Clearly one team at Apple feels (or felt) that the name was no impediment to them marketing it. Like all corporations, Apple is just a congregation of human beings, rather than a synchronized hive mind. But it's problematic if app authors can't trust in consistency as a result. FWIW, it's a net downside for me that my professional workstation has an app named "Amphetamine", so I'm quietly in favor of a rename.…

How is it a net downside? The entire purpose of the App Store being locked down is that it's reliable. There is no way any HR department will launch an investigation because you downloaded an app called Amphetamine. Worst case scenario they go look it up and realize there's nothing more to the situation. I'd have to see a documented event of this happening rather than a hypothetical scenario to believe a downside act…

Just because your HR would be ok with it doesn’t mean all would be

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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They are also doing everything they can to block people from distributing apps outside of their walled garden. So they are in fact telling the author that he can't call his app whatever he wants. Because if he does, they will do everything they can to prevent anyone else from ever using that app.

>They are also doing everything they can to block people from distributing apps outside of their walled garden. People keep saying that but nothing on my Mac has ever stopped me from installing whatever software I want. I wish people would stop repeating this lie.

You already forgot about the Epic games debacle where Apple did exactly that?
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