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Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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Post by derekp7 » Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 10:43 PM UTC

desktopninja wrote: post #549

scaladev wrote: post #415

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Living in a non-English speaking country certainly helps. Everybody around here is using `git` without realizing what it means. Same for CockroachDB.

I think Linus knew what he was doing at the time when he created the tool :D

Ah yes, he was pissed off at the guy that typed in "help" after telneting to a BitKeeper repository, then using the docs that put out to make a clone of the client. Since he had a connection to the Linux Foundation, that caused McVoy to revoke the license for BitKeeper to the Linux community.

Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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Post by IshKebab » Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 10:33 AM UTC

mkl wrote: post #158

IshKebab wrote: post #92

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I agree it is a problem. I think there are several reasons: 1. It's a mountain of work and loads of people involved are doing it in their limited spare time. 2. It's even more of a mountain of work because Linux developers have to write all the hardware drivers themselves too. On Windows drivers tend to be written by device manufacturers but that rarely happens on Linux because it's very difficult to write closed sou…

Text-based config files are one of the best features of Linux. Duplicating and managing Windows software configurations is a nightmare by comparison. Making a reliable modern Linux system is pretty easy; usually you don't need to do anything much beyond installing, but if you do, the solid reliable text config and service management files make it easier than any other OS I've used.

They're really not. They prevent you from doing things like automatically responding to config changes, or changing settings programmatically, e.g. from a GUI or installer.

Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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Post by IshKebab » Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 10:34 AM UTC

taxcoder wrote: post #150

IshKebab wrote: post #92

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I agree it is a problem. I think there are several reasons: 1. It's a mountain of work and loads of people involved are doing it in their limited spare time. 2. It's even more of a mountain of work because Linux developers have to write all the hardware drivers themselves too. On Windows drivers tend to be written by device manufacturers but that rarely happens on Linux because it's very difficult to write closed sou…

1. How others prioritize their time and how limited it is is an interesting call to make. Are you familiar enough with any of the contributors to know how much "spare" time they have and how they use it? 2. See above. 3. I am locked to a Windows desktop for work, but support Centos servers for backups and such. What is wrong with text-based config files? Are GUI checkboxes a better option? They may be more discoverab…

> Are GUI checkboxes a better option?

Yes.

Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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Post by gmkurtzer » Thu, Dec 24, 2020, 1:26 AM UTC

tux wrote: post #196

I think the name and the logo is good. Don't listen to the people who just keep talking and not helping! Good to see that CentOS cofonder picked this up and now became a founder of Rocky Linux. This shows dedication and rock solid background. Rocky Linux will be a project to follow, help and use in production environment. Thank you for all your hard work!

My pleasure and thank you for the kind words. :)

Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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Post by moonbug » Thu, Dec 24, 2020, 1:20 PM UTC

hibbelig wrote: post #524

moonbug wrote: post #259

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Ten years of uptime seems neither an unreasonable nor unattainable requirement. There's more to computers than mayfly web startups.

If it's not connected to the Internet, okay. If it is connected to the Internet, then I guess the kernel needs to be hot-patched need to be applied to avoid security issues. Were hot kernel patches available ten years ago? I remember some company who did this (for Linux), and it was quite a while back, so it's possible. But I doubt it was mainstream. I recall long ago that SunOS boxes had to be rebooted for kernel pa…

ksplice, and it's an Oracle product