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Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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Post by aruggirello »

mnahkies wrote: post #332
hanklazard wrote: post #261

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re: linux laptops, I'm writing this from one of the new Lenovo Carbon X1 models that comes pre-installed with Ubuntu. I prefer pop!_os (except for the name) so I installed that when I first got the machine, and it's worked with no issues. I've had it for a few weeks and zero complaints. The fingerprint reader even works with linux, which wasn't the case on my previous gen CX1 laptops. Let me also just say that I am b…

I setup Debian on an old desktop for my mum a few years back, and she was able to use it happily with no issues or support from me - for the average person that just wants a web browser and some word processing it works great! When it comes to development I find it immensely better, and found that it has also made me much more confident when I poke around on servers - no context switching between my local environment…

I've used Bibble 4/5 in the past (a decade ago!), which was cross platform and worked on Linux, and has evolved into Corel AfterShot Pro - still cross-platform and working on Linux. Maybe not as famous and powerful as Lightroom, but it's a pretty solid software.

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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Post by executesorder66 »

ketzu wrote: post #462
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The fact that there are ads on by default, in an OS that you PAID for, is really so laughable. There is so much cognitive dissonance in the typical windows users minds. You'd think the average person would not PAY to have LESS control over their own machines. But I guess that microsoft PR has got you all by the balls.

This might have reasons: * As far as I remember, start menu ads were premiered by ubuntu [1] * They might not have "bought" windows 10 at all or at least don't feel like they did: a free upgrade from 7/8, a campus license from their university, "included" in the computer they bought Many of the advantages and disadvantages of various OS come down to personal taste and willingness to deal with them. There's no need to…

> As far as I remember, start menu ads were premiered by ubuntu

And that's just as abhorrent as when Windows does it. Luckily there are lots of other distros.

> a free upgrade from 7/8

Microsoft forced that on a lot of people too, so it's not the users fault for "not paying"

> a campus license from their university, "included" in the computer they bought

Someone still payed for that, whether it is the OEM or the university. It still doesn't excuse the practice.

> Many of the advantages and disadvantages of various OS come down to personal taste and willingness to deal with them. There's no need to belittle either side.

I agree for the most part. If you have to use windows or MacOS because it is the only OS that some specific software is compiled for, and you need the software, then I don't blame you for using the OS. But really it's the software developer's fault for not releasing on all common platforms that brought the limitation in the first place.

But I'm sorry I am going to belittle people who defend dual payment systems as you call them. That is just pure greed.

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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Post by db579 »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #439
jamaicahest wrote: post #352

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> as long as you buy a system with known good Linux support And that is where the problem lies. With Windows I can buy pretty much any laptop and expect it to work with. With Linux I have a limited selection of laptops, if I want it to work fully. I'm a developer and I know my way around Linux pretty well, still I usually run into "missing drivers", "package management is broken", "hardware working mostly but not ful…

This sounds like you're trying to buy brand new laptops and then slap distros with years old kernels on them. With most laptops, the network card is the only area where support is still not solid.

I think in general there is just very little hardware as attractive as a MacBook Pro that supports Linux well. If we take the requirements as being roughly: HiDPI screen, thin and light all metal body, USB C charging, tenkeyless keyboard with centered trackpad and reasonable expectation of mostly working out of the box with a standard Ubuntu iso.

Your options are pretty much just the Dell XPS/Precision line and the Lenovo X1 Extreme series? Anything else?

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

Nginx487 wrote: post #412
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Most of your arguments are reasonable however they are trending to become weak over time. - Photoshop : your lifetime license is not really lifetime, CS2 servers got shut down recently, Adobe will shut down those servers sooner or later. While you may not find it true for you, for the non professional Gimp is generally good enough. Also the Mac version of Photoshop while having some kinks even for professional use is…

I got your point, but as a developer working on User Privacy products, I consider "software as a service" model personally unacceptable. I do not force anyone into my philosophy, but I will try to keep my offline software functional as long as possible, before maybe I find self-sufficient solution to replace it (like I did with migrating all Evernote documents into Nextcloud). And again, I emphasized "software of tha…

Are you sure photoshop is not supported on wine? https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=applicatio... some versions report platinum level support.

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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Post by bariumbitmap »

Hi everyone, original author of the document here.

I was confused about why there were so many new Github issues filed, and sure enough I did a search on Hacker News and found it posted here.

This was inspired by my annoyance with the prevailing tenor of Windows vs. Linux comparisons at the time, which consisted largely of unsupported generalizations like "Linux is about choice" or undecidable debates like whether the GIMP was an acceptable replacement for Adobe Photoshop, or if LibreOffice was a good enough Microsoft Office. I wanted to go in a different direction and examine how technical design decisions in the kernels affected everyday use, which is why there's so much time spent on filenames.

Ultimately, though, it's just a highly selective overview of the operating systems at the time, with a few historical asides. (I'm particularly proud of digging up the part about case-insensitive filenames using less RAM in the DEC SIXBIT encoding.)

I haven't updated it significantly since 2014, so it is probably out of date in spots. However, much of it is still holds true today. I continue to use both Linux and Windows on a daily basis, and I still occasionally run into the same old problems with path lengths, filename restrictions, and file locking semantics.

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Post by [deleted] »

leetrout wrote: post #247
Osiris wrote: post #223

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I'm using PopOS (with i3 instead of Gnome) on a System76 laptop. I have some serious issues with resume from sleep. All browsers and electron apps have significant rendering issues after I resume and I have to close them down and restart them. I was able to fix Chrome and Firefox by enabling Vulkan, but Slack still requires a restart after every resume. My external monitors periodically stop working due to an NVIDIA…

I am using pop on an oryx and my external monitor doesn’t wake up from sleep. Most flat pack apps don’t work right - especially anything electron based. Zoom is a hot mess and fractional scaling still doesn’t work right. I just tried disabling the hidpi daemon in hopes my monitor wakes up correctly. We’ll see. All that said I am addicted to the speed of the OS compared to windows or Mac OS. I feel like I’m using the…

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Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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Post by sergeykish »

lodovic wrote: post #485
sergeykish wrote: post #429

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It was unexpected. But could you feel it without experiencing? I've used open source OS for a decade. It has changed my mind. I've never downloaded software from site. I trust community, not vendors. I use just one non open source application (slack) and I do not trust them, I'd rather run it in a sandbox. My system comes with a framework to download, build, install any package with just a few commands: $ yay -G foo…

This is actually one of the major annoyances for me in Linux. Each distro has its own package manager and set of packages. Yay, yum, apt, pacman, dpkg, portage, the list is near endless and as each package manager needs a reason to exist, each will try to be different. For simple use cases such as installing a package, this is fine. But for example, finding out how to search for available packages can take quite some…

This stance actually annoys me. Should we ditch all but one and only web browser? desktop environment? file manager? database? terminal? language? There it starts and where it ends? And who decides what the true form is?

I do not like apt, dpkg, aptitude — interface is not good, output extremely verbose by default and it was slow. Its existence does not annoy me as I do not use it anymore. I use pacman, but this annoys you, what should I do? Abandon it and fill the web with grieve?

Maybe you have to work with different distributions, it should not be hard to create (or google) wrapper https://github.com/icy/pacapt

Separate communities is Linux power. We do not argue on a true form, we solve our needs.

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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Post by AshamedCaptain »

sangli wrote: post #278
lukeschlather wrote: post #215

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I've actually quit using Bluetooth for Zoom meetings on Windows because it has been too unreliable.

I have done this too, partially. The problem with bluetooth on windows is that it doesn't work in duplex mode. You can't use speaker and mic together on bluetooth. If you disable the module for mic(don't remember what it's called) then the speaker function works perfectly. All the support posts that I read told me that bluetooth is the problem, not windows. But I call BS on that as the bluetooth duplexing works perfe…

The support posts are right. Bluetooth is not full-duplex when you are using it in A2DP mode (required for stereo audio).

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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Post by sergeykish »

tester34 wrote: post #447
sergeykish wrote: post #429

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It was unexpected. But could you feel it without experiencing? I've used open source OS for a decade. It has changed my mind. I've never downloaded software from site. I trust community, not vendors. I use just one non open source application (slack) and I do not trust them, I'd rather run it in a sandbox. My system comes with a framework to download, build, install any package with just a few commands: $ yay -G foo…

Maybe I'm kinda skewed because I started with Windows, but I don't feel difference between downloading e.g Firefox on Windows and typing `apt-get install nginx` on Linux. Maybe because it requires "huge shittons" of effort to try to controle the software, and yet, at the end of the day I still have to trust somebody (OS, Drivers, ISP, Firmware/Hardware, Govt)

I've used Windows for 10 years prior that. Maybe the difference is not touching Windows for 10 years.

Sure, it is about trust. Browser addons and language packages pushed by authors, this results in leftpad, spyware. Distributions dissolves authors power, provides buffer, they pull new versions, walk it through stages, there are many eyes and build is (often) reproducible, stable distributions pull only critical updates. Overall effect would not be as dramatic.

https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/archlinux/archlinux.ht...

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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Post by noisem4ker »

ACS_Solver wrote: post #426
TsomArp wrote: post #397

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I have to agree with you. I consider myself a geek, a fairly advanced user of software and a software developer. I have been trying different versions of Linux since the Mandrake Linux times, so about what, 20 years? I always come back to Windows, which from Windows 2000 has been getting better and better. Of course there have been sh*t moments like Windows Vista and Windows 8, but Windows 2k, XP, 7, and now 10 (ente…

I think it really comes down to what software you need, more than proficiency. Just like you, I'm an advanced user, a software developer, and Mandrake was my first serious Linux. For me though, software isn't missing on Linux, it's missing on Windows. I rarely need an office suite, and my needs are limited to simple Word/Writer documents and even simpler Excel/Calc spreadsheets, so even MS Office 97 or StarOffice 5 h…

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administrati...

>OpenSSH has been added to Windows as of autumn 2018, and is included in Windows 10 and Windows Server 2019.

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