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Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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You skipped the keynote parts where they say faster 2x, 4x, 8x... and they say faster than every other laptop CPU and faster than 98% of laptops/PCs in their class sold last year? They said it several times. But I agree... let's wait for the benchmarks (btw. iPads already overturns nearly all laptop CPUs)

Based on what Apple says. Is there an independent cross platform benchmark which is actually relevant and that says the same?

No, because it hasn't shipped yet.

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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"Testing conducted by Apple in October 2020 using preproduction MacBook Air systems with Apple M1 chip and 8-core GPU, as well as production 1.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i7-based MacBook Air systems, all configured with 16GB RAM and 2TB SSD. Tested with prerelease Final Cut Pro 10.5 using a 55-second clip with 4K Apple ProRes RAW media, at 4096x2160 resolution and 59.94 frames per second, transcoded to Apple ProRes 42…

The literally benchmarked the slowest 10th Gen i7 CPU on the market.

And I got so excited about it...

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It's kind of sad that AMD spent years to get mediocre TensorFlow support and Apple walks in with this. It really shows how huge Apple is.

But they needed to, MacBooks are simply no option if you want to train models. I dont expect crazy performance but would be great if MacBooks would be an option again for prototyping / model development at least

Could this also be remedied by Apple supporting Nvidia GPUs again? And then you plug in a beefy eGPU?

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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I'll be waiting for the 16" MBP which will hopefully have a reasonable RAM option. 16GB is fine for normal MacOS use I suppose, but I'm also curious how this virtualization situation will play out. Having Windows on boot camp and VMWare is a nice thing to have.

FYI boot camp won't be supported, only virtualization for ARMs

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I'm confused of their new pricing scheme / spec tiers for Macbook Pros. There's no more core i7 for Macbook 13. You have to go to Macbook 16. I'd rather get a Dell XPS or other Core i7/Ryzen 7 ultrabooks. So now, spec-wise, Macbook Air and Macbook Pro are too close.

it's there, you just have to configure it

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Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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8GB and 16GB configurations seem more than enough..

They've also halved the 2 base SSDs to 256/512 I thought with the last update they'd finally seen the light and moved to 512/1tb, now we're back with the silly 256gb. If you factor in having to upgrade ram to 16gb and ssd to 512 it's only £100 shy of the old price. Good, but not as good as it looked to begin with.

You can get an external M2 USB 3.1 Gen 2 (10Gbps) enclosure plus 1TB M2 SSD for $130 and a 2TB for $320. That makes the 16GB Mac Mini 256GB a decent buy at $970 imo.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MNFH1PX

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I think they got it wrong. I would pay money to NOT have the touchbar.

I got one of the MBP with the touchbar this year after holding out for many years (changed jobs so had to change laptop). Man it is so much hard to do the volume changes, and there has so far for me been zero benefit.

Same situation, my trusty 2012 rMBP finally gave up the ghost and I had to get a new one with this icky touch bar. It's useless to me and makes it harder to do everything. My main complaint is that I am constantly bumping it when I type, leading to unexpected changes in volume and brightness.

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Max 16GB of RAM on these new machines is really not that great to be honest. The mini supported up to 64GB before.

SSD performance with their integrated IO controller might close the gap here, the same way that pretty fast storage on their iPhones makes the lack of RAM there not so debilitating. But yeah, agreed that not having a 32GB option is somewhat disappointing. (sent from my MacBook Pro with 32GB of RAM)

I’ll believe that when I see it. For like ten years now marketing gremlins have been breathlessly saying “these SSDs will be so fast they can replace RAM!” and it’s never even close.

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And it costs an extra €224 to go from 8 to 16gb. This is ridiculously expensive.

It's not quite as insulting as their $800 2TB SSD.

You could get the smallest SSD (a laughable 256GB) and then add one or two external 10Gbps NVMe M.2 SSDs at very low cost and with adequate performance.

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An 8 core processor on a Macbook Air that is also energy efficient? That is truly impressive. I never thought I would consider using Macbook Airs after all the years of using Macbook Pros, but Apple surprises me once again.

4 high-power and 4 low-power cores.

At 9:15 of the keynote they claim that the "high-efficiency" cores are as powerful as the outgoing dual-core MacBook Air's cores. Seems pretty good to me.
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