Women: Learn to Program This Summer

Post by 0xfeeddeadbeef » Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 1:17 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #490

0xfeeddeadbeef wrote: post #435

I am a cisgender white male. I never wanted to be a programmer — I was forced into it by my mother, aunt and grandmother. They also provided me with tuition money. I will sue them for oppressing me and also making it harder for women to pursue their dreams. Edit: Downvoting into oblivion, as expected. Cue the western woman — the most oppressed life form on the planet Earth.

Posting trollish flamebait will get you banned here. Please don't break the guidelines by complaining about downvotes either. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Post by wsy » Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 1:21 PM UTC

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Society still has an immense effect on what children and teenagers prefer to do, via instilling role models. There is an amazing small experiment with primary school children. First, no girl in the class even has the idea she could become a pilot, because this is seen as a boy's/men's profession. Then a female pilots and a female car mechanic visit the kids, and explain what they are doing. Afterwards, half of the gi…

All these kinds of studies just expect me to believe that the result is a good thing. Girls want to become pilots? Why is that good? Do we have a shortage of pilots? Would having a female pilot improve your flying experience? How about making more women want to do manual labour? There is a huge shortage of women in those industries.

Post by Grustaf » Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 1:26 PM UTC

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I’m not saying hiring managers should favour men for developer jobs. I’m saying many more men are into computers, so it’s natural that people hire more male developers. You are aware that men are much more likely to be autistic, right? Don’t you feel that it’s at least conceivable that men are also more likely to be interested in spending their day writing instructions to computers?

Yes, I think it is conceivable. But at the same time, I have a hard time explaining a 10%/90% distribution just with biological differences. It seems to me that the biological differences are too small to explain such a huge skew. In particular, because the gender distribution for programmers was very different in the 1940s/1950s. At the same time, the cultural biases seem so obvious to me, that I think acknowledging…

Post by Kye » Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 1:51 PM UTC

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Without doxing myself... It’s not apparently obvious what ethnicity I am based on looks. I had already been told there was a focus on diversity at the company I ended up getting an offer at and they “really want to build a diverse team from the ground up”. The conversation had been dragging for months and I resisted bringing up my background out of principle. I saw the hiring manager tweeting about a Latinx conferenc…

Asquerosa la situacion, pero entiendo porque lo hiciste. Latinx es un termino gringo que me hace cagar de riza lol. Por el culo, somos Latinos y Latinas. No LaTiNX.

Post by apta » Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 2:06 PM UTC

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There was a video documentary by someone in Scandinavia where they did experiments on infants, and from a very early age, the differences between male and females start to manifest, even before any sort of social input and differences in treatment. It seems to be biological. Females are more interested in "faces" and the males were more interested in "things". That doesn't mean women are not interested in STEM though…

In the Middle East there is absolutely societal pressure against women, I’m only saying there’s none of that in the West. I’ve lived in Jordan, one of the freest and most tolerant countries in the region and I could definitely imagine that women would like to avoid atudying with men.