‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Computer Science Students

Post by blub » Sun, Nov 18, 2018, 5:28 PM UTC

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That doesn't prove anything though: employee at biggest surveillance machine in the world considers working at the 2nd biggest surveillance machine in the world. A lot of us software engineering types lack integrity and are perfectly happy to work on socially harmful projects as long as the pay's right and there's opportunity to grow one's skills.

I don’t work on anything I consider socially harmful, FWIW. Before you ask, I don’t think most people would consider what I do socially harmful either, if they knew what it was.

Post by throwaway-hn123 » Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 3:59 PM UTC

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I graduated six years ago, have worked at Microsoft and Dropbox, and anecdotally around a quarter of my friends at either of them wouldn't work at Facebook now. Parent comment is not obviously wrong, and you shouldn't assume bad faith. Your last submission was titled "We're lucky Mark Zuckerberg is in charge" and around half your comment history is devoted to defending Facebook. At least if you're going to question s…

Lol I can still remember when Microsoft was the big Bogeyman.

Post by deminature » Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 7:07 PM UTC

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> A lot of us software engineering types lack integrity This is pretty insulting, working at Facebook doesn't necessarily mean you don't have integrity. The majority of the company is engaged in development efforts that aren't related to the odious part of the business to do with brokering personal data. Additionally, I'm sure Facebook would move away from that if there was a viable way to get people to pay directly…

Working at the company which is responsible for making election manipulation easier, facilitating murders and manipulating billions of people into giving up their private information is not ok, even if one actually works on some cool JavaScript library and not the evil bits themselves.

Post by distant_hat » Mon, Nov 26, 2018, 12:20 PM UTC

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This is called a "compensating differential" (see, e.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compensating_differential ). There's a decent body of literature in economics on this. This falls under labor economics.

Interesting. In the same vein, video game companies have a negative compensating differential. Lots of kids want to grow up to program video games, so they don't have to pay them as much under worse work environments.

Post by kamaal » Tue, Nov 27, 2018, 2:06 PM UTC

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'Meets most expectations' is the lowest performance rating before they PIP you. 40hrs just to be on the precipice of unemployment is dumb.

Ha, that sounds like average IT company. I wonder what 1000s of FB engineers typically do. Writing some big data processing system? or mostly just wrangling with javascript, react native etc.