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Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by chrisseaton »

Aloha wrote: post #517
mrmondo wrote: post #497

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This and I want as much content as possible in 4K/HDR, I’m really sick of the second tier streaming services being limited to highly compressed 1080p. If a service came along that truly had the TV and films I wanted with a preference for 4K content, I’d happily pay $40-$60AUD a month for it. Right now I subscribe to: - Netflix - Stan - Apple Music - Usenet related services - Audible - Plex Premium - Getflix content u…

Consider for a moment that 4k resolution is not easy to obtain from film - you need to shoot the whole thing digitally to really get the right product. I also don't much care for how 4k looks - or the bandwidth needed to transport it around.

> Consider for a moment that 4k resolution is not easy to obtain from film

Why's it not easy? You just do a 4k scan of the film don't you?

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Post by maccard »

mrmondo wrote: post #497
geff82 wrote: post #112

Maybe when I am 60, 70 or 80 the film industry will get their shi* together and finally agree on a solution that has long been found in the music business. For a truly complete platform, I would FOR SURE pay more than the 10$ a month for Netflix. 20, maybe 30! But then I want it ALL. All films they have in storage. I mean, it is 2017 and there are a lot of films I can't find on Netflix, Amazon Prime or, when I am in…

This and I want as much content as possible in 4K/HDR, I’m really sick of the second tier streaming services being limited to highly compressed 1080p. If a service came along that truly had the TV and films I wanted with a preference for 4K content, I’d happily pay $40-$60AUD a month for it. Right now I subscribe to: - Netflix - Stan - Apple Music - Usenet related services - Audible - Plex Premium - Getflix content u…

I'd pay more than £40 for it; right now I pay £12/month for a TV licence (basically a BBC subscription fee), £20/month to sky, and £7.50/month to Netflix. I've also paid £7.99/month for Amazon for a few months to try out prime video, but never found it worthwhile. That's just for TV/movie content. I don't want to manage 4/5/6 subscriptions.

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Post by wodenokoto »

Anatidae wrote: post #30

If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…

The complete Disney library is probably bigger than the current Netflix library.

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Post by Mindwipe »

SN76477 wrote: post #433
geff82 wrote: post #112

Maybe when I am 60, 70 or 80 the film industry will get their shi* together and finally agree on a solution that has long been found in the music business. For a truly complete platform, I would FOR SURE pay more than the 10$ a month for Netflix. 20, maybe 30! But then I want it ALL. All films they have in storage. I mean, it is 2017 and there are a lot of films I can't find on Netflix, Amazon Prime or, when I am in…

Why cant I watch old TV shows? 3's company? Facts of Life? The Peoples Court? It doesnt make much sense to me.

Because there aren't enough people like you who would to pay for it to cover the costs of even a lawyer reviewing the contracts to see who owns the rights (and the answer will be not a single party, actors/music/artwork etc rights involved in all will be incredibly complex), never mind actually pay anyone involved.

There are lots of things I would like someone to make at a reasonable price too (roll on my line of all existing Transformers with chrome finishes, car paint, clear windows and chrome tire rims!). But I have to accept that there's not enough of me that the costs of that sort of thing come down to $10, and buy a limited subset of more expensive items instead.

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Post by alkonaut »

Would Netflix/HBO really have anything to lose by providing their services in some open way that could be aggregated? The immediate downside is cost of implementing, but on the plus side they'd have people able to access it on platforms that currently can't.

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Post by sobani »

seanp2k2 wrote: post #389
WillPostForFood wrote: post #320

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Star Wars is already the movies, plus two animated series (Clone Wars and Rebels). You can look at the Marvel strategy to see where it could go, with multiple movies a year plus multiple tv/streaming series (Agents of Shield, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Legion, Defenders, Gifted, Inhumans, Punisher, Runaways). If all that Marvel content moves to Disney streaming, plus new Star Wars content, plus t…

Where will they get the money to bootstrap such a large production pipeline?

Did you perhaps reply to the wrong post? I cannot make sense of your reply.

Both Netflix and Disney already produce a lot of content, so they don't have to bootstrap a pipeline anymore.

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Post by wodenokoto »

davedx wrote: post #483
zapt02 wrote: post #98

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I agree with this. Most families in the western world would pay upwards of $30 to be able to show Disneys back catalog to their kids. Unlimited nostalgia. But I hope they don't pull a typical Disney and portion out their content by arbitrary restrictions. Families will pay either way regardless though.

Hi, family with 4 kids, very happy to see Vaiana come on Netflix the other week. No way in hell will we pay an extra subscription just to watch old Disney films. I want one streaming service and will pay more for more (I upgraded our Netflix to support more devices). I will not pay for multiple services like this.

I think the future you are looking at is no Disney content on Netflix and much, much more Disney content on Disney-flix.

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Post by beaconstudios »

alkonaut wrote: post #550
onion2k wrote: post #534

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...a solution that has long been found in the music business. Perhaps you're fortunate that everything you want to listen to is on your preferred music streaming service, but what they offer is far from everything in the music industry's catalogue. Ask any classical music fan what they think of streaming services and you'll hear a tirade against the woeful offerings that streaming services make available.

You don't need "everything" but you need enough. If you subscribe to e.g Spotify you initially get surprised by some things not being in their library. However the library is so large and the use of a single service so convenient that most people can simply accept what's there. After the initial disappointment, any further disappointment is nearly zero so long as you keep all your discovery of new music within Spotif…

FWIW, I have the same issue trying to find new experimental EDM. I find indieshuffle provides a much better selection of more out-there songs, at the cost of having a much less mature interface.

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Post by Mindwipe »

komali2 wrote: post #172
fweespeech wrote: post #105

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The big Media companies want it to work like cable because they think their "premium content" will get people to pay more. In reality, they are likely to trigger a backlash that increases piracy instead.

I don't know why all these people behind these decisions don't just look at Gabe Newell and his simple statement - "Piracy is a service problem." Steam is a rampant success. You'd think people would catch on. Have the content, make it easy to access, make it easy to pay, and people will give you money hand over fist.

Stream uses DRM, has famously bad customer service, geofilters content and uses differential pricing, keeps content it produces itself exclusively to the platform and withholds it from others, bars some content based on arbitrary criteria, maintains a singular store that doesn't play especially nice with third party indexing tools etc etc etc.

Even Valve doesn't believe in Gabe's statement, and never did. Dozens of media companies have much larger market caps than Valve's estimated value.

The statement conforms to the prejudices of a lot of Hacker News, but there is significant evidence that it's not empirically true.

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Post by mrmondo »

chrisseaton wrote: post #551
Aloha wrote: post #517

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Consider for a moment that 4k resolution is not easy to obtain from film - you need to shoot the whole thing digitally to really get the right product. I also don't much care for how 4k looks - or the bandwidth needed to transport it around.

> Consider for a moment that 4k resolution is not easy to obtain from film Why's it not easy? You just do a 4k scan of the film don't you?

Indeed and there's many methods for this that are being used to restore many old films from archive. Modern film cameras used by major networks record at 4K-6K (full open). Beyond that even if the cameras on set are recording at 3.2K or 2K pro-res etc... it doesn't mean that the post-production and up-scaling upon rendering doesn't benefit from a final output of 4K. Finally - we must think to the future and not hold back technology to the lowest common denominator.
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