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Re: Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team

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Post by idlewords »

dlss wrote: post #489
tptacek wrote: post #426

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why exactly am I meant to be comforted by the fact that the craven opportunists --- the lowest of the low of the Republican party, discredited outsiders like Newt Gingrich and John Bolton --- are getting the most important positions in the United States government for kowtowing to Trump? There are important thinkers in the Republican Party. People with ideas and a moral core, people who have given years of service to…

> Why exactly am I meant to be comforted by the fact that the craven opportunists --- the lowest of the low of the Republican party [...] are getting the most important positions in the United States government for kowtowing to Trump? Twenty-three days ago you and Marco sought to get Peter Thiel removed from YC for his support of Trump[1]. This is to say you were explicitly working to ensure that respectable people w…

That is not a true statement. tptacek never called for Thiel to be removed from YC, and I challenge you to point to any statement of his to the contrary.

Re: Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team

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Post by quarterto »

eis wrote: post #547

Interesting that the moderators found it important to remove the "YC partner" part from the submission. It also seems the submission is getting less exposure than other submissions even though it's newer and has more upvotes. For example this submission has 349 points and was submitted 6 hours ago and has rank 17 while "Halite: An AI Programming Challenge" has 158 points and was submitted 12 hours ago and is rank 16.…

Post with more comments than upvotes are penalised as a proxy for controversiality (remember HN doesn't have downvotes for posts)

Re: Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team

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Post by idlewords »

hueving wrote: post #502
tptacek wrote: post #322

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There are generations of families --- literally millions of people --- that are linked together through people who are in the US "illegally". People were brought here as children and have known no other life. People who were born in this country and are unassailably citizens, deserving of all the protections previous generations of Americans died on beaches to defend for them, whose parents were brought here illegall…

Why are you scare quoting "illegally"? They are here in violation of the law. If you don't believe in controlled immigration, just state that up front rather than trying to hide behind an appeal to emotion via stories of tearing families apart. Your argument seems to be either that long time violators of a law should gain immunity to the law; or that we should grant citizenship to anyone who enters the country. Which…

Because it is the only case in which "illegal" refers to a status rather than an action, as if the very act of existing in the United States without correct documentation was an affront against justice.

This is a very un-American view of how the law works, and so the scare quotes are merited.

Re: Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team

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Post by chronic6l »

mlangdon wrote: post #350
maverick_iceman wrote: post #274

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Do you realize that $1M is chump change to Trump?

Prove it. Let's see some tax returns. In the absence of evidence, it is reasonable to assume that he is heavily in debt with no liquid assets and effectively poor. He paid a 7 dollar boy scout fee for his son from his "charity."

You think someone in debt would be smart enough to prod half the country as sheep into voting for him? Ha. America got trolled and was given the middle finger. We get it, you're upset. But listen to what the Democrat thought leaders are saying: stop dividing the country with your continued rhetoric in your comment.

- Software engineer at Google in Mountain View, California

Re: Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team

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Post by dirktheman »

School-Cotton wrote: post #33
the_decider wrote: post #16

Perhaps California's exit from the union will hep YC re-establish its moral integrty. Sam Altman, you wanted to radically change the word (in a positive way)? Well now is your chance!

It might be the morally correct choice (I reserve judgment on that) for California to secede from the US, but it's certainly not a good idea pragmatically. Trump doesn't really have any consistent ideology about most things, but the one thing he never wavers on is his commitment to protectionist trade policy. If California seceded from the US to spite Trump, Trump will do everything in his power to block commerce bet…

Also it wouldn't be morally correct, because California isn't a singular Democrat state. The coastal districts are Democrat, everything else votes Republican. Cecession would create exactly the same problem in California as we have right now: a massive rift between two parties.

Re: Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team

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Post by plorg »

tptacek wrote: post #426
edblarney wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Lots of individuals who Trump "owes" through either money or support they provided to him; pure cronyism." Trump is the most 'free' President in modern history. He 'owes' the least, to the fewest people. This is one thing even the center-left press were talking about. As for Thiel - $1M might seem like a lot - but Trump doesn't really 'owe' Thiel anything, because Thiel doesn't have direct future influence etc., and…

Why exactly am I meant to be comforted by the fact that the craven opportunists --- the lowest of the low of the Republican party, discredited outsiders like Newt Gingrich and John Bolton --- are getting the most important positions in the United States government for kowtowing to Trump? There are important thinkers in the Republican Party. People with ideas and a moral core, people who have given years of service to…

Don't forget the rumors of cabinet positions for Ben Carson and Sarah Palin. I'm not sure I would call it cronyism as much as the promotion of craven sycophants.

Re: Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team

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Post by jacalata »

akamaka wrote: post #235
ch4s3 wrote: post #211

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He thinks women shouldn't be able to vote. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/peter-thiel-women-democr...

I looked at your article and it seems he's just saying that when women were enfranchised, the type of democracy we had became less supportive of libertarianism. I have no idea whether that's true or not, but misquoting him is not contributing to an intelligent dialogue.

He thinks the world would be better if women couldn't vote, but it is too late to take it away from them.

Re: Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team

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Post by mvkaxon »

meritt wrote: post #21

This was obvious from the RNC speech and further reinforced when Thiel donated $1M to Trump. A contrarian bet, sure, but $1M is a pretty small price to pay to have a 50/50 shot at CTO of the USA. I'm sure he'll see a very significant ROI on his $1M once the government starts awarding contracts very conveniently to companies of which he owns a portion. I had very negative feelings about Thiel, and those were magnified…

No. I don't think it is about "money" anymore for billionaires. Intentions may be evil, but not about personal financial gains.

Re: Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team

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Post by [deleted] »

koolba wrote: post #539
tptacek wrote: post #426

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why exactly am I meant to be comforted by the fact that the craven opportunists --- the lowest of the low of the Republican party, discredited outsiders like Newt Gingrich and John Bolton --- are getting the most important positions in the United States government for kowtowing to Trump? There are important thinkers in the Republican Party. People with ideas and a moral core, people who have given years of service to…

In your thought process is the right thing to promote the people who doubted, and in some cases outright campaigned against him? The country voted and chose Trump. That means that they also chose him to pick the people that he'll be surrounding himself with to make decisions. GP isn't saying there isn't a rewarding of those that stood by him. He's saying that compared to the unbridled corruption of a candidate that t…

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Re: Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team

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Post by hjweui5 »

tptacek wrote: post #426
edblarney wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Lots of individuals who Trump "owes" through either money or support they provided to him; pure cronyism." Trump is the most 'free' President in modern history. He 'owes' the least, to the fewest people. This is one thing even the center-left press were talking about. As for Thiel - $1M might seem like a lot - but Trump doesn't really 'owe' Thiel anything, because Thiel doesn't have direct future influence etc., and…

Why exactly am I meant to be comforted by the fact that the craven opportunists --- the lowest of the low of the Republican party, discredited outsiders like Newt Gingrich and John Bolton --- are getting the most important positions in the United States government for kowtowing to Trump? There are important thinkers in the Republican Party. People with ideas and a moral core, people who have given years of service to…

I think you don't have problem being a cuckold. As if anyone gives shit about your opinion, you fattso. Wait, is that why you get triggered every time muh racist, muh sexist comment is mentioned?
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