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Ok, so let me wrap this for everyone: While everyone here in this forum kept arguing (and fighting and yelling at each other) whether tis moral/right/secure/cheap for ppl to rewrite and ship a major software package with LLMs/agents, one of the main drivers behind AI actually did it, without consulting your opinion, and most same everyone actually slurped this decision without paying a a notice. Boring is good, but t…
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As a counter argument - I assume that Anthropic is using AI to write Claude Code. I've read and heard in videos that Javascript is a pretty good language for AI to write code in. Apparently this is because there is so much training data out there. Also Javascript avoids problems of multi threading and memory management that can mess up the AI in other "more performant" languages. So maybe Javascript is not the worst…
I feel like a year ago JavaScript and Python were the best languages for coding agents to use because of their heavier presence in the training data, but I'm not sure that's true any more now. The latest frontier models are competent at Rust and Swift and all manner of other less widely used languages. The more important factor is how good they language's compiler is at kicking out actionable error messages, since on…
Like Ada or Ocaml or Haskell or something.
Or even require like MC / DC testing or MISRA C verification.
Or even some of the languages that apply Hoare checks, like Ada SPARK or FRAMA-C or VALE or whatever.
I don't have the budget to test how that would work but it seems interesting.
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Which was completely bonkers -- it happened completely in the open, people were just outraged that something like this happens without asking them and not on a schedule they perceive as adequate. Most of them haven't really grasped what was happening and why. Many still don't.
It wasn't out in the open. It was never announced or discussed ahead of time. It was just done because the company who purchased Bun wanted it done, and they only communicated it was happening once they started. I don't consider the following comment to be good, honest, and open communication: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48016880#48019226
> There’s a very high chance all this code gets thrown out completely.
... and a few days later he decided that the code wouldn't get thrown out. That doesn't make the comment itself dishonest, he didn't have a crystal ball.
You can absolutely argue that the rewrite was not communicated clearly once they committed to it, but I don't think the comment you linked to there stands as evidence of poor communication at the time it was written.
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Of course I have. If I see ghostty constantly consuming the most energy and helping reduce my battery life to barely 2 or 3 hours, the first thing I'm going to do is switch terminal to see if I can improve that situation. The built in terminal and WezTerm have been fine and I've had much more reasonable battery life since. This does not even speak to it pegging my CPU and keeping the fans running on full blast even w…
If you're looking for a non-ghostty recommendation (not that I have anything against ghostty) I use alacritty + zellij and it works fantastic. It doesn't seem to impact battery, I certainly get good battery usage on both my work and home laptops.
Never had to dig through the xterm bug tracker to figure something out. I don't even know what version I'm running, or even what the versioning scheme looks like. I haven't changed the configuration since the first time I set it up. It just works.
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The argument is that doing it all on a single thread will result in high cpu utilization and that is what makes the power usage spike and the pc feel hot. Thats it. A lot of people go “js is bad” reflexively and they are right for the wrong reasons. Its not because js (specifically v8) is slow. I have many websites and web based apps open and none fuck up my laptop as hard as claude code.
Yeah I don't get it we had terminals on single core machines. In early 2000s I am sure they could handle the UI of Claude (probably IO too).
The UI itself requires laughably simple tech. The idea that a markdown renderer that can produce HTML at 50MB/s would use much CPU to process incoming hundreds of bytes per second is insane. CPU should be idle even if doing that constantly. Nevermind that between turns it has nothing to do whatsoever and should use zero CPU at all.
Maybe I’m taking crazy pills, but I’m still stuck on “why the hell does a TUI need to run in terminal React by way of JavaScript” The fact that Anthropic felt the need to buy a runtime so they could make their TUI better speaks more to the quality of engineering than anything else IMO. If rewrites are so easy, why not rewrite CC in a native language? Would’ve been a hell of a lot cheaper.
Why would rewriting Claude code, an app which probably has 30-40 (I might be significantly underestimating) extremely active contributors be easier than rewriting Bun, which has fewer contributors and almost certainly also less lines of code?
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> $168k Billions of dollars of annual revenue go through Claude Code, and the people who work on it must be a lot of millions in headcount. The time matters a fair bit, it's probably time someone can't spend breaking things in the name of new features, but if rewriting the stack had even a tiny impact on retention or driving higher usage, it would pay back that $168k.
If only paying the $168k was some sort of a guarantee. Vibing doesn't give you that. You might get more maintainable code for $168k by hiring humans, but if its something bespoke it isn't going to get you far (or far quickly). Vibing is straight out gambling right now, the thing is, I don't know who the house is any more.
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It wasn't out in the open. It was never announced or discussed ahead of time. It was just done because the company who purchased Bun wanted it done, and they only communicated it was happening once they started. I don't consider the following comment to be good, honest, and open communication: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48016880#48019226
What was dishonest about that comment? > There’s a very high chance all this code gets thrown out completely. ... and a few days later he decided that the code wouldn't get thrown out. That doesn't make the comment itself dishonest, he didn't have a crystal ball. You can absolutely argue that the rewrite was not communicated clearly once they committed to it, but I don't think the comment you linked to there stands a…
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How much extra money do you think they would make if Claude Code wasn’t JavaScript?
Right now? Zero. In 2 years? A well-engineered TUI could be the difference between the Blackberry and the iPhone for all we know.
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Which was completely bonkers -- it happened completely in the open, people were just outraged that something like this happens without asking them and not on a schedule they perceive as adequate. Most of them haven't really grasped what was happening and why. Many still don't.
It wasn't out in the open. It was never announced or discussed ahead of time. It was just done because the company who purchased Bun wanted it done, and they only communicated it was happening once they started. I don't consider the following comment to be good, honest, and open communication: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48016880#48019226