Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Identity verification on Claude

support.claude.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

541–550 of 765 posts

Re: Identity verification on Claude

#541

Post by marcus_holmes »

ignoramous wrote: post #445
Aurornis wrote: post #437

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Despite what’s being implied everywhere, this ID check page has been there since April. Wayback Machine if you don’t believe me: https://web.archive.org/web/20260415064244/https://support.c... > As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. This is a crazy conclusion for a situation that isn’t even two weeks old. LLMs are not the first te…

> This is a crazy conclusion for a situation that isn’t even two weeks old... I think, this is all a culmination of rapidly eroding trust and soft power between US & its allies for the past 3y.

> past 3y

since January 2025

Re: Identity verification on Claude

#542

Post by chaitanyya »

data-ottawa wrote: post #154

The US is really shooting itself in the foot here. The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. Each month that I pay Anthropic is now a depreciating value -- I'm paying for models I'll never…

I don't believe US government wanted to restrict the model use to US citizens only. The bad actors will and can find their ways around it.

They do however want strict measures in place to avoid abuse, and the export control was the only tool they had to stop Anthropic from releasing the model.

Though I also wonder if it's even possible to patch things without severely crippling the abilities of the model.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

#544

Post by marcus_holmes »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #308
data-ottawa wrote: post #154

The US is really shooting itself in the foot here. The restrictions on LLM models like Fable has created a viable international LLM market where it was difficult to justify investment two weeks ago. As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. Each month that I pay Anthropic is now a depreciating value -- I'm paying for models I'll never…

I also think this makes OpenAI and Anthropic even less viable. They're tens of billions in debt, losing money every month, have data center commitments in the hundreds of billions, and now they're reducing their market to the US? The only way this can work is with substantial government subsidies.

shhh, the investors might hear you. If they do then the bubble pops, all those data centre projects grind to a halt, 5% of US GDP disappears, and the USA goes into a deep recession.

Of course, as you say, this would require govt funds to fix. Congress gets asked for funding to save the US economy, and various members of the Trump dynasty pop up in unexpected non-exec directorships for companies receiving those funds.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

#546

Post by zarzavat »

unshavedyak wrote: post #208
gravity2060 wrote: post #200

One of my frustrations with this is for those of us who allow our under-18 year old children access to our account. If we want our kids to code with ai-assist, my read of the “ban-if-under-18” means I risk my indispensable pro account by giving my kids claude code on their laptops now. Is this a correct reading?

I wouldn’t let anyone else use it in general because it’s an asset i don’t want to lose. As it is I now have to be careful what I use it for as I don’t want to trip any flags. Eg today I was curious how some LLM benchmarks worked and I wanted to talk through how I’d develop some, running some models locally, etc. however I don’t want to be flagged as a potential competitor and have my account revoked from Fable/etc.…

Switch to open models and restore your sanity. GLM 5.2 is only slightly behind. Paying money but living in fear regardless is silly.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

#547

Post by donohoe »

Rooster61 wrote: post #22

I really don't like that headlines have been surfacing about the US government putting pressure on Anthropic, and now a short time later they are requiring ID's (albeit for certain use cases, but that's a slippery slope). I may very well stop using Claude due to this. Also, who is providing the verification service? We don't want another Discord situation. EDIT: Just saw it's Persona. Definitely dropping Claude now.

Not quite - this page has been there and saying this since April, so ~3 months ago.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

#548

Post by rootusrootus »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #541
ignoramous wrote: post #445

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a crazy conclusion for a situation that isn’t even two weeks old... I think, this is all a culmination of rapidly eroding trust and soft power between US & its allies for the past 3y.

> past 3y since January 2025

it’s been a loooooooong year and a half

Re: Identity verification on Claude

#549

Post by byzantinegene »

cheonic52749 wrote: post #399
pizzly wrote: post #351

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That makes it better, paying money to always having access to the second rate models from US AI providers. The problem remains.

> paying money to always having access to the second rate models from US AI providers. The problem remains. Your alternative: Pay a Chinese or EU company for a third rate model. The choice is yours.

not if they run out of investments to train their cutting edge models. Anthropic and OpenAI IPOs are going to be a massive flop if they aren't able to sell their best models to the world.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

#550

Post by byzantinegene »

chrsw wrote: post #500
HDBaseT wrote: post #465

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both Anthropic and OpenAI don't want to continue training models indefinitely. Anthropic CEO has expressed potentially slowing down on model training. There is little return for billions of dollars burnt for 1-2% increase on various benchmarks. These companies profit via inference. Not to mention, the whole Fable being banned by the US Gov is a scary prospect for future models. What is the point of spending billions…

Of course this can't go on forever. Especially not on LLMs. But are we really close to the limits of what these LLMs can do? I'm not sure we are. The difference between GPT-5/Opus 4 and GPT-5.5/Opus 4.8 is striking. For software development anyway, there's no comparison. And all this has happened in a year. My assumption is there will be another 2-3 years of improvements ahead of us on LLMs alone. Through hardware up…

some people will, but they will have to bear the costs being the only users of llms sustained through billions of dollars of funding.
Post reply on HN