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Wouldnt that hurt the conservative cause though?
Count of people - brown people removed = success
More like `people - brown people = success` among the crowd
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>And disheartening that people continue to gravitate to a political party that proudly announces desires to abuse this data. The same party that promotes distrust in the government (that is justified by the abuse the same party does when in power). Amazing, innit.
The worse things get, the better they do. It's an insidious, vicious cycle.
Iran, Haiti, Russia, Syria, Lebanon, Argentina have been at the "worse and worse" stages for decades and there is no "better" in sight.
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#543Adding fake data (noise) officially to an important data such census, is the height of weirdness of the West. The nations are totally confused between privacy and visibility requirements. The privacy and freedom is effectively working against the very foundations of the nation, as the binding force between elements of a nation is directly affected by privacy.
Excessive obsession with equality is another thing that works to erase any cognitive abilities of the people to recognize differences in gender, race, age, culture etc. Equality is good to a reasonable extent but it shouldn't be forced to an extent to erase the cognitive capabilities gained through evolution.
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#544Earlier quoted context omitted.
> they are doing everything they can to ensure that only the people who are legally allowed to vote are the ones voting Illegal voting is so rare that almost every time folks go looking for it they come up empty handed. Examples of voter suppression, on the other hand, are trivial to fine. (And both parties do it, particularly around primaries.) In my state, we’re trying to enact a citizenship-proof requirement which…
If someone mails in my absentee ballot and I don’t complain, how do you detect that voter fraud? Or if someone knows their friend is sick and votes without an id, how do you detect that? It seems like there are currently many ways to vote illegally that don’t get detected.
> If someone mails in my absentee ballot and I don’t complain, how do you detect that voter fraud?
You get followed up in an audit, if anyone asks. This happened like three million times in Arizona.
> there are currently many ways to vote illegally that don’t get detected
There are. None of the proposed plans limit them. (No county requires scanning and biometrically verifying passports. You could buy a wrapper on eBay and inkjet the pages in most counties.)
There are also lots of ways to blow up public buildings. We don’t require ID to enter DC because the frequency of the harm isn’t matched by the cost of enforcement.
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In the US these kinds of scam fail to be legal on the basis of contract law which is way more nuanced than "can't do this"... I am not talking about common sense I am talking about things like informed consent and consideration.
German law doesn't really care if your consent to a contract was informed or not. If you technically consented, then you consented. This is also how we got the recent thread about .at domains renewing automatically and the registry suing you if you don't pay.
That can happen in the US too... When you agree to a contract you are bound to the terms of it.
Why do you think it is so common to hear horror stories about gym memberships?
But in your example no one agreed to the contract which means no agreement exists.
Generally you can say that payment was agreement to terms but that doesn't work if you deceived to get the payment.
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Trump was never ever going to drain the swamp. And I wouldn't say he served existing entrenched interests very well either. To the extent he touched the swamp it was to put in worse people only he liked.
> Trump was never ever going to drain the swamp. Doesn't matter for the point of the argument, he was elected on that promise, and others, that he eventually broke.
If only there had been clues he might be a liar... Really, it was completely unexpected, he used to be so honest.
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#547Earlier quoted context omitted.
The worse things get, the better they do. It's an insidious, vicious cycle.
Iran, Haiti, Russia, Syria, Lebanon, Argentina have been at the "worse and worse" stages for decades and there is no "better" in sight.
> Iran, Haiti, Russia, Syria, Lebanon, Argentina have been at the "worse and worse" stages for decades and there is no "better" in sight.
Unless I’m completely misunderstanding things, it’s "better for the party". Our new Nazi party in Germany (AfD) even said something like that openly.
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#548Sounds like a great way to prevent finding irregularities
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What, religious data? Are you serious? That's one of the most critical things they can track about their citizens. Let's say your town has a lot of pig farmers. The pig farmers are afraid their business is diminishing. So they lobby the local government to put a tax on chicken and beef, to encourage more pork consumption. Which local officials might be inclined to do for economic reasons. But then you collect religio…
The government does not need the census to tell it that 50% of the population is of a particular religion, polling like that routinely happens, the census is about voter districts and how many representatives each state gets to elect, the same is true in other democracies as well. I can think of at least of one European country that does not collect religious, racial and ethnic data during their census. They collect…
Germany does not do a census
What?
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksz%C3%A4hlung_in_Deutschla...
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Here was my request: > Can you describe the specific chain of events required to create a fraudulent vote that is "impossible" to detect? You literally just described a scheme that is possible to detect in any meaningful amount. 10, 100, or 1000 ballots coming from a single address is, obviously, trivially detectable.
I see. It's possible to detect the scheme per se even though the detection would not lead to charges (ballots from the people registered at the same address are completely legal) and thus would not be conducted. The point your correspondent has initially made: it's impossible to detect illegal voting in such a scheme.
> even though the detection would not lead to charges
Didn't you cite a charging document upthread?