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LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do

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Re: LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do

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Wut? I pilot LLMs all day but there's no way in hell I'd agree to be at the helm of a finance product. That first pillar is still there. Maybe the author isn't aware of the impact they have, but I know, with the evidence of reverted PRs, that when I step outside my area of deep knowledge I can no longer call BS on the agents. Our most capable agent, with access to the same kind of distributed systems the author talks…

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Re: LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do

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Who gets in trouble if it turns out you are actually held to the literal rule?

Contrary to what you indicate rules are not declared in a vacuum, for people to read and then algorithmically 'implement'. There are many ways to interpret regulation, and there will be both accompanying clarifications, as well as compliance departments negotiating with regulators on what is an acceptable and sufficient compliance action. Then there furthermore is a risk that will be calculated vs the cost and opport…

I also work in finance and my recent experience with regulators is really discouraging. DOGE wiped out a large amount of the regulators in government. It seems like most of the regulators remaining are the inexperienced and low tenure. Within the past few months we've attempted to roll out new financial products. When we attempt to send our proposal to them, they can't even tell us who we're supposed to send it to.

It doesn't feel like we're living in the same world of regulation that existed prior to DOGE.

Re: LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do

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>>"Domain knowledge can be learnt much quicker than how to apply good engineering principles." I'm not sure that's universally true. Good software engineers who are arrogant about easily acquired domain knowledge have been the downfall of many an ERP system. There's SO much IT that's literally all about putting business rules into the system.

> Good software engineers who are arrogant about easily acquired domain knowledge This is a problem of arrogance, not of domain expertise. Having worked in a few different industries, I'd wager that for the vast majority of them, a competent person can probably learn 80% of the required domain knowledge in under 6 months. For the latter 20%, as long as the person is not arrogant, they will seek help from colleagues w…

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Re: LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do

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The dynamic of agent codes human reviews does seem like the only sane one for the foreseeable future. Even Anthropic themselves still fall back to this. The problem is that sucks, even if all software engineers keep their jobs and salaries, the floor is still pulled out from under us. Imagine if a surgeons job was to supervise robot surgeons from a remote computer, or a woodworker just signs off on work before the ma…

I never found there to be much soul and humanity in the job to begin with. Coding personal projects has soul, but for me at least the demands of high-velocity sprint-based software development to match business needs removed most of the soul and humanity long before AI got good at coding. And I mean, I totally understand why it has to be like that. In most businesses, you do better by shipping decent software fast th…

That's an interesting perspective. It's hard for me to relate to it because I haven't worked in a job where I just have to ship code 'for work' in so long. Being a more or less one-man software company, all my work projects, but especially our products, feel like personal projects.

However, if I were just having to do things for the man, I might have a rather different take on all this.

Re: LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do

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And I'd still question it. The experience of just… knowing how a good architecture looks like without being able to really put it in words is what makes a good engineer to me. These people can pick up relevant regulations or industry terms and deliver value quickly enough.

How is "without being able to really put it in words" a mark of experience ? Surely an engineer should be able to justify why an architecture should be arranged the way it is!

Somethings are true not because of one big cause but 10,000 tiny paper cuts. Trying to explain it all just becomes a laundry list where each problem seems solvable but really each problem is there at the same time and inter-linked in non-obvious ways. And the experienced person just comes across as a nay sayer who doesn’t welcome innovation.

Re: LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do

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The OPs domain/subject matter expertise is the part that should elevate their career. Understanding how large applications are constructed should also remain a pillar.

The coding and debugging part will be GenAI and possibly guardrails (harness engineering) tuned specifically for fintech, which they are also well-suited to implement.

Re: LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do

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> I pilot LLMs all day Love the metaphor. Planes are sophisticated machines capable of auto-piloting, but humans are still needed to ultimately pilot the beast.

There is a product called Microsoft Copilot...

a slightly different metaphor. Copilot suggests it is next to you, helping you pilot... something else. The computer? The system? But "piloting the LLM" changes the relationship. The LLM is the thing that is being piloted.

Re: LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do

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Wut? I pilot LLMs all day but there's no way in hell I'd agree to be at the helm of a finance product. That first pillar is still there. Maybe the author isn't aware of the impact they have, but I know, with the evidence of reverted PRs, that when I step outside my area of deep knowledge I can no longer call BS on the agents. Our most capable agent, with access to the same kind of distributed systems the author talks…

Norwegians have a saying: “Den som er ferdig utlært, er ikke utlært – men ferdig.” Meaning if you are finished with learning the one that is finished is you. Typical scandinavic hard cold truth…

I understand the frustration of spending years nurturing a skill and then seeing its value decline.But this isn’t really an LLM problem. The same thing happened to factory workers, typists, draftsmen, and many others before. The technology changes, but the underlying issue is the economic system we live in, where the market can suddenly decide that something you’ve spent years mastering is worth much less than before.

LLMs are not creating that dynamic. They’re just accelerating it.

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