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DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

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Re: DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

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https://openai.com/it-IT/index/our-agreement-with-the-depart...

The Department of War is a customer, there's no handout here. The government does procure services from private firms, this isn't new or special.

Except it's buying a product that doesn't even exist yet…

Re: DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

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Let me repeat myself >>>> When making more money requires degrading the product you know we've fucked up

That just sounds like business to me. You do whatever makes money.

This is called enshittification. Business behaves like with with the lack of regulations: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41277484

Re: DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

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Spotify is a toxic shit company overall that is a general detriment to all musicians everywhere. If you care about music just a little bit you should stop using it today and directly buy music from the artists you care about.

Bandcamp is great. Albums are usually ~$10 for high-fidelity digital downloads, and ~$25 gets you a vinyl record + the digital download.

Bandcamp is my preferred solution as well - apart from visiting concerts and buying merch etc directly from the artist, where possible.

Re: DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

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The Department of War is a customer, there's no handout here. The government does procure services from private firms, this isn't new or special.

Uhh, the entire contract is a form of corporate welfare. So yes, the DoW giving money to these companies is a handout. Just because it benefits them doesn't mean it's not a handout, especially when said money could be used elsewhere for purposes that actually benefit everyone and not a dozen people living in SF.

No, welfare is when you're given money for value you're not providing. It's a net drain on the system.

This is a government entity procuring a product they need from a private entity.

You can dislike it, but it's not a handout. Words have meaning.

Re: DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

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Let me repeat myself >>>> When making more money requires degrading the product you know we've fucked up

That just sounds like business to me. You do whatever makes money.

Maybe it is today, but that's not how it's always been. The idea is that competition means the best product wins. But there's a lot it ways to degrade competition, not just monopolization. We're living in a lemon economy

Re: DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

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My friends who previously had no interest in technology and never talked about it, are suddenly following tech news closely all because they hate AI being pushed so hard. One was just messaging me this morning about alternatives to Google search and maps. He ended up downloading DuckDuckGo. If Google isn’t carefully they’re going to push people away from their golden goose.

The AI product rollouts in the last two years have been some of the most aggressive and user hostile product rollouts in my entire life. All conventions and user centricity go out the window with AI feature launches lately. If you look at examples from the last week it’s stuff like posthogs opt-out training, Copilot training, or Google’s antigravity chat-app switch. I’ve had the worst customer experiences of my life…

It’s been infuriating to see it shoved everywhere in the corporate stack - Teams, Outslook, Jira, GitHub, etc. and since tools are all company-mandated, the best I can do is continuously ignore or say “not now”, but one day Teams will rollover on a forced software update and I’ll have no choice but to “let” CoPilot schedule meetings in an app that already consistently warns that I’m in a different time zone despite all of us being east coast (I’ve checked so many settings, and even with another single coworker who has checked his we see the warning).

My company is also heavily pushing AI, which is worrisome but no surprising - part of my goal for the coming year is to showcase using AI in a productive and innovative way, can’t wait.

Eventually my Google Nest Minis will stop asking me to try Gemini and force me to, and they’ll all get binned unless I can find a firmware replacement which I doubt is out there, and then I’ll get deep into HomeKit and local voice recognition for turning the lights on and off and setting timers because that’s literally 99% of my use-case, and I’m sure Gemini would fuck it up.

Re: DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

#547

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That just sounds like business to me. You do whatever makes money.

Maybe it is today, but that's not how it's always been. The idea is that competition means the best product wins. But there's a lot it ways to degrade competition, not just monopolization. We're living in a lemon economy

There's never been any rule that the best product wins. Trivial example if I make RAM chips and give them away for free I'll lose.

Re: DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

#548
post #496

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Looks like you're making the common mistake of counting all people you disagree with as the same person. In this case they're clearly different - AI proponents and AI skeptics respectively. But your 2nd paragraph is spot on.

I'm calling out the "tech opinionist community" broadly speaking. I don't know if it's the same exact people but it's often the same forums or news outlets.

Yea that sounds like different people. Even news sites can have contradictory opinions and narratives - they should otherwise they're just biased. But it doesn't make it the same people.

Re: DuckDuckGo search saw 28% more visits after Google said people love AI mode

#549
post #199

Google has ~90% of search where DuckDuckGo has A ~30% jump of DuckDuckGo is about 0.3% of global search traffic, basically a rounding error for google. Still, it's an interesting signal, but not nearly enough to worry Google. If the jump had been 300% that would merit some thought.

0.3% is definitely not a ”rounding error”. For Google it would mean roughly $650M drop in revenue.

$650mil rounds to zero in a company worth trillions
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