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Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Minimax coding plan is $10 a month for roughly 3x the $20 Claude Pro CLI usage allowed. That would be good place to start. 200k context though.

MiniMax has its own issues. Server overloads, API errors, and failure to adhere to even the system prompt. It can happily work for hours and get no job done.

Just like me :)

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

#542
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I predict this may get reversed as it would be a huge opening for glm, kimi, and qwen offerings. I'd switch instead of upgrading to Max

Do they have their own cli agents or just the api inference services?

Some do, I know of kimi code https://www.kimi.com/code

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

#543
We, as a society, need Open Source SOTA models and should be able to also train new models via distributed P2P network.

Otherwise companies will keep exploiting using their dominant position.

We were taught dictators are bad, monopolies are bad, but now allowing 2 companies control most of the software development

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

#544

I don't think I've ever been on such a rollercoaster with a company's reputation in the developer space. I started in January on the $20 plan, essentially my first agentic AI programming. I quickly started hitting limits developing several apps at the same time. I went up to the $200 plan after seeing the value. After seeing my own issues with 4.6 and the mega-post on Github about declining metrics in a decent datase…

> I quickly started hitting limits developing several apps at the same time

> I'm a career engineer

I'm trying really hard here to be nice, but what the hell are you doing? Are you vibe coding multiple apps in parallel and calling it engineering?

Is it like those people who eat 2-3x the amount of meat to ensure they offset the positive impact 1-2 vegans are having? :D

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

#545

We, as a society, need Open Source SOTA models and should be able to also train new models via distributed P2P network. Otherwise companies will keep exploiting using their dominant position. We were taught dictators are bad, monopolies are bad, but now allowing 2 companies control most of the software development

That seems not possible.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

#546

With GLM and Kimi getting better and better, with both still providing low-cost coding plans with higher quotas, and with how trivial it is to switch to them even within Claude CLI, I'm not sure what makes Anthropic think their users would rather pay 5x than switch to the competition.

Never mind GLM and Kimi, even GPT 5.4 offers a great plan for $20/mo. Even if it gets increased rate limits after May, it's still quite likely that casual users won't be hitting them on a regular basis.

openai is too toxic for many

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

#547
post #270

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They later said: https://twitter.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/204672549859272297... > When we do land on something, if it affects existing subscribers you'll get plenty of notice before anything changes. Will hear it from us, not a screenshot on X or Reddit. If you don't want things like this spreading through screenshots of X and Reddit, don't run "tests" like this in the first place! (Also "if it affects existing subs…

> I need to know the pricing of Claude Code for NEW subscribers if I'm going to adopt it at a company with a growing team. I agree, but can you really use Claude Code on the Pro plan as a full time developer, or professional 'knowledge worker' without hitting the usage limits fairly early in the day anyway?

I use Pro professionally and didn't hit limits most of the time. I believe I used up 5hr quota once or twice. We switched to Team sub and I'm on Standard(which is Pro x1.25 I believe). I don't vibecode entire applications, I ask it to make boilerplate, smaller, well scoped features or fix some errors. I don't let it go off with a prompt "make another netflix clone" cause I just don't see any real value in that

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

#548

What a way to ruin goodwill with the very community they are trying to court. I am on a Pro subscription to use with Claude Code, but it sounds like the days of using it are numbered. I guess I will be trying the latest offering from OpenAI and Google tomorrow and if they are satisfactory I might just switch. Moreover, I have been recommending Anthropic's API solutions up to now to friends and clients. Based on this…

In my experience, Codex is better than Claude Code in every way and GPT-5.4 is on par or better than Opus 4.6 at every coding task I ask of it.

You're really not going to miss CC. And OpenAI actually had some foresight to invest massively in compute so they don't run into usage and rate limits like Anthropic does constantly. I couldn't even use CC for more than a couple complex tasks before I was out of extra usage or session usage. It was a maddening productivity killer and I just switched to Codex full time.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

#549
post #473

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Anthropic is absolutely taken seriously in workplaces, what are you even talking about? No serious business uses Pro or Max, they are all on Anthropic API billing. In fact with this move it is plainly obvious that Anthropic is moving compute from prosumers towards enterprise.

I know of a very serious business that deployed Max to all of their developers. API pricing, from what I see, can become more expensive than just hiring another dev.

We're also not seeing much difference in real throughput at an agency. Everyone is getting decent results, output wise but it just doesn't seem to change the outcomes that much. There is also a mixed incentive at an agency, because a reduction in hours spent is a reduction in revenue.

It will be interesting to see how it all plays out, but I suspect if cost continues to increase and output only improves incrementally from here, that the cost will be the final decider rather than the competence.

I could see it being a thing we use only sometimes, for some things, but ultimately remain reliant on developers to get the work through the pipeline.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

#550
It is perhaps better for Anthropic to do a price hike e.g. $25 or $30 for Pro with a clear/honest messaging e.g. "Running costs are high, price hike is unavoidable" than resorting to these tactics.

These shenanigans are earning them no respect. The market is already annoyed on model serving QA issues, and now (recently) Opus limits. They don't want to lose to OpenAI - understandable - but these shortcuts won't earn them anything either.

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