John Ternus to become Apple CEO • Hacker News Board

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by wtallis » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 2:57 AM UTC

dev1ycan wrote: post #485

Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

Apple under Tim Cook stopped innovating, entirely. If Steve was stil alive he'd still be competing we'd probably have Safari on Windows to this day... and cheaper computers (like the NEO but with upgradeable RAM)

> If Steve was stil alive he'd still be competing we'd probably have Safari on Windows to this day... and cheaper computers (like the NEO but with upgradeable RAM)

The MacBook Pro started using non-removable batteries in 2009. Also: https://www.folklore.org/Diagnostic_Port.html

I don't think your fantasy that Steve would have staunchly defended upgradable RAM in the past decade has much grounding in reality. It seems entirely likely that he would have supported the switch to LPDDR to enable better battery life, higher performance and thinner form factors at the cost of sacrificing that upgradability.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by xgkickt » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 2:58 AM UTC

gabbagool wrote: post #141

Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

I'm genuinely curious why you think Apple software is terrible?

Their presumed lack of regression testing.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by silisili » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 3:02 AM UTC

esafak wrote: post #429

quaddoggy wrote: post #140

Surprised that someone from Gen X is getting the opportunity to lead a company of this caliber. We've spent most of our adult lives getting smothered by Boomers and Millennials. Thanks for making all that money, Tim. Now please retire. Please.

Google is gen x.

And Microsoft. And Netflix. And Uber.

I'm perplexed by the assertion, unless it was some joke that went over my head.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by celeryd » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 3:04 AM UTC

Apple is currently lightyears ahead in privacy compared to any other major consumer tech company, is this going to still be the case with Mr. Ternus at the helm? That's not a question meant to be answered right away, but my current mindset evaluating the change in leadership as a consumer.

EDIT: Also, can Apple take over the data center already? I am sick of HP and Dell.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by postalcoder » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 3:04 AM UTC

IncreasePosts wrote: post #357

tchalla wrote: post #39

> Under Cook’s leadership Apple has grown from a market capitalization of approximately $350 billion to $4 trillion, representing a more than 1,000% increase, and yearly revenue has nearly quadrupled, from $108 billion in fiscal year 2011 to more than $416 billion in fiscal year 2025. Quite successful.

For the same period: AMZN: +2100% META: +1700% MSFT: +1300% GOOG: +1400%

This is a specious comparison at best. Apple is, at heart, a hardware company. They have different growth profiles. A consumer hardware company getting that sort of growth is mind boggling.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by cg805 » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 3:04 AM UTC

zoogeny wrote: post #304

I've been critical of Cook at times because I feel his vision was a business vision more than the kind of futurism I felt from Jobs. Cook was the ultimate bean counter, hyper-optimizing Apple from a financial and operational perspective. I felt like he took less risks and was mostly squeezing every single advantage that Apple had to its limit. But I cannot argue with the results the man achieved. Especially the trans…

Strategic competence and playing to your strengths is ok to me. Avoiding lots of bad decisions can sometimes be just as good as making some really good decisions.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by bschwindHN » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 3:08 AM UTC

djyde wrote: post #467

While I don't agree with many things Cook has done during his tenure, like the Touch Bar and removing the SD card slot from MacBooks, I have to admit the man knows how to make money.

I don't like that Tim Cook added the touch bar and removed the SD card slot, but you have to give him credit for also removing the touch bar and adding the SD card slot ;)

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by pretzel5297 » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 3:09 AM UTC

Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

> I also want to say I really appreciate Tim Cook’s emphasis on user privacy and I hope John Ternus can continue this trend.

You're kidding right? News [1] just broke about how Apple's permanent notification storage (that they refuse to fix) undermines encryption and is being exploited by law enforcement. And they conveniently left out the fact that they were giving out push notification data to law enforcement without any warrants from their transparency reports [2]. And these are just from the top of my head.

Do we now presume all companies putting the word privacy on their ads are emphasizing privacy? Because Meta and Google does that too.

[1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/larsdaniel/2026/04/10/fbi-pulle... [2] https://www.wired.com/story/apple-google-push-notification-s...

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by Petersipoi » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 3:10 AM UTC

geodel wrote: post #390

mabedan wrote: post #226

If Johny Ive stayed, he could have become CEO... Now he has to design Ferrari dashboards and AI Pins

"Designing AI Pin has been the greatest privilege of my life. I'd rank it higher than anything I did before"

You buy that? If he really did say that, it's just a mixture of cope and a passive aggressive attempt at a jab.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by ex_apple_mgmt » Tue, Apr 21, 2026, 3:10 AM UTC

bayindirh wrote: post #157

hei-lima wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's, IMO. But that doesn't mean it can't be better.

Their software is better than most (if not all) of closed-source universe. That's true, but the problem is, they were better in the past. I'm using both Linux and macOS close to 20 years (Linux is even more than 20, IIRC), and macOS (aka Mac OS) used to be snappier, more stable, more uniform and had incredibly low number of papercuts around the UI. Now it has some nasty thorns here and there, while Linux is improving…

This hits hard.

They were so much better. And have slid slowly into complacency, if not worse.