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German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Post by em-bee »

dmitrygr wrote: post #257
atomicnumber3 wrote: post #142

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A lot of draft laws haven't been touched in a long time and aren't updated for modern gender politics. Though I do wonder if they'll actually get updated ever - no politician wants to touch it and it's not like anyone is screaming for the right to be forced to go die in war. It's always weird to me how surprised women are that every single man they know has had to specifically, actually physically ink paper to sign u…

Tie draft registration to voting registration. Equality before law, and all that

both are already tied to residence registration (which is mandatory in germany, because it defines where you pay taxes). there is no need to register for the draft. it is automatic, once you turn 18 you get the letter to get tested if you qualify.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Post by asksomeoneelse »

randomNumber7 wrote: post #458
dingi wrote: post #439

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Islamic societies could be the only ones that will be left standing after all these nonsense we see in the west.

I would bet my money on asian societies.

I don't know. A lot of countries in East Asia seem to struggle demographically just as much as Western countries do, if not more.

But at least it seems they didn't go for the easy solutions that is mass immigration, so hopefully their children's "seats" won't be taken when they finally wake up.

On the other hand, as someone living in Central Europe, it's obvious our society is heading towards a radical change. I don't know what will happen, but I don't recall ever reading about a indigenous population becoming a minority being a good thing for them.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Post by wat10000 »

delecti wrote: post #382
voisin wrote: post #372

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> Annual budget $31.3 million (FY 2024) If it hasn’t been used in 50 years, is there some other use for the registry or the organization or why hasn’t this been cut yet?

Nobody wants to be the guy who got the nation caught with its pants down if conscription needs to come back in a hurry. The same reason the military budget always ratchets upwards.

Measured as a percentage of GDP (which I'd say is the most sensible way to measure it) the US's current military budget is lower than at any point since WWII aside from a few years between the end of the Cold War and 9/11.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Post by FinnKuhn »

sva_ wrote: post #532
Galanwe wrote: post #106

I don't think there is any moat here, most European countries have these kind of "deprecated" laws, that are not enforced and just stay there because it's too much of a hassle to remove. In France, I think there are still laws forbidding women to wear jeans, and requiring permission of the husband to work. Still in the text of law, but obviously non enforceable.

This is not a deprecated law but rather was changed towards its current form on January 1st of this year

The law exists since the 1950s. It was just suspended from 2011 to 2026. The new law just reactivated the old law.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Post by oblio »

vasac wrote: post #518
sveme wrote: post #493

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Are you implying that this is Germany getting ready to invade Poland?

I’m implying they aren’t getting ready because they think Russians are going to march on Berlin.

Let's turn this into an affirmation, not a negation. What are you affirming?

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Post by wat10000 »

vasac wrote: post #518
sveme wrote: post #493

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Are you implying that this is Germany getting ready to invade Poland?

I’m implying they aren’t getting ready because they think Russians are going to march on Berlin.

They're getting ready to ensure the Russians aren't.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Post by mr_toad »

hdgvhicv wrote: post #222
logicchains wrote: post #197

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That's not true. When France surrendered in WW2 most French men didn't have to fight or die (unless they were Jewish).

99% of males in the U.K. avoided dying in ww2 - 380k military casualties vs a population of 47 million (and presumably 23.5 million male) I’m assuming non military casualties were evenly spread between male and female.

Figures I’ve seen say over 700,000 casualties in the British Army alone.

3.7 million served in the Army, which is a fairly high proportion when compared to the age range suitable for military service. Add in the Navy and RAF and you get to nearly six million. Those that didn’t serve were generally needed at home - roles like doctors, miners, police, or were too young or too old to fight.

The British, unlike many European countries, had time to mobilise those forces. Had they lost the Battle of Britain and had Germany commenced a land invasion of Britain then it’s likely the numbers would have been a lot lower.

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Post by wat10000 »

einpoklum wrote: post #478
Longhanks wrote: post #469

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Whilst I agree, to be fair, a passport is usually only needed when entering a country, not leaving one, right? Under the cited rule, the US needs to allow you to leave , not help you in entering some other country.

I have yet to leave a country (well, a state technically) without having to show a passport - with the exception of the Schengen area.

That's mostly because transport companies have to pay to ship you back if you get turned away at the border, so they will want to see your permission to enter your destination country before you leave. I've traveled internationally a fair bit and I've never had to show my passport to government officials when leaving the US.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Post by layer8 »

wartywhoa23 wrote: post #529
layer8 wrote: post #523

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The German constitution explicitly prohibits starting wars: https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_gg/englisch_gg.h...

It's about time to finally grok that all world's military is only there to wage wars at the whim of the 0.001% under the guise of being defence-only, and that constitutions worth less than toilet paper these days.

So what's your proposed solution? Not have a military and just roll over when someone decides to attack you?
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