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Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by KellyCriterion »

j45 wrote: post #212
jmalicki wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You aren't paying to be using that limit all of the time. You are paying to be using that limit some of the time. There are 5 hour windows when you are sleeping and can't use it. There are weekend limits. Theoretically you can max out every 5 hour window, but they lose money on that. It's structured so users can have bursts of unlimited usage, and spend ~15% of the theoretical max cap, and that's still cheaper than a…

Efficient token use will be the new code/vim golf. Whether it's human token use, or future OpenClaws

Like "Token Usage Consulting" companies popping up now? :-D

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by andai »

happyopossum wrote: post #243
andai wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are they doing that? Opus is the only good way to run Claw. Do they regret making it cheaper or what? Also what's the point of Claude -p if not integration with 3rd party code? (They have a whole agents SDK which does the same thing.. but I think that one requires per token pricing.) I guess they regret supporting subscription auth on the -p flag

> Opus is the only good way to run Claw that's a ridiculous position to take - gemini and others work just great with claw...

Well, it might have been cargo culting but that was the consensus in the OC community a while ago.

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by upcoming-sesame »

ramon156 wrote: post #500

May I suggest trying Z.ai coding plan? I've had a good experience, and its 1/3rd of the price. When I do use AI, I already have a solid plan of what I need. Sometimes I ask it to look something up. I never do both in one prompt. GLM 5.1 can do both, and its way way cheaper. I also don't hit my limit that fast (Plus I get to use it in OpenCode).

which plan do you suggest ? 80$/m ?

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by upcoming-sesame »

djhope99 wrote: post #147

Personally I appreciate the clarity and technical enforcement vs banning accounts. I switched OpenClaw to MiniMax 2.7. This combined with Claude over telegram does enough for me. OpenClaw used to burn through all my Claude usage anyway.

how do you use Claude over telegram ?

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by muyuu »

KingMob wrote: post #535
muyuu wrote: post #505

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not really, no being honest would be to just adjust the limits rather than adding piecewise limitations but of course with honesty comes that people can actually gauge your product accurately and they may not want that

But the limits apply to all users. I doubt non-OpenClaw users want to pay $XX more to subsidize OpenClaw users.

it amounts to service limit obfuscation, and their market are very clued about that

nobody wants them to add fineprint every time users find effective ways to actually use the service to its advertised limits, it only benefits those who want to be milked for recurring revenue for sporadic usage while paying handsomely for the privilege

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by janalsncm »

thegagne wrote: post #366
janalsncm wrote: post #133

I got fed up with Claude code limits and have been using a combination of qwen3-coder, gemma4, and qwen3-vl locally. Gets me 90% of the way there and CC is still around for now if I need it. Btw even at insane markups $200/mo means GPUs break even pretty fast.

Which harness and how which GPU?

Opencode + 4090

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by mikkupikku »

I had an idea to use `claude -p` to break apart books and annotate all dialogue with estimated speaker meta-data. The tips displaying in interactive claude sessions keep seeming to advocate for such experimentation with claude -p, but despite this I have deliberately held back because after reading the TOS (weeks ago) I couldn't clearly make out where the line is meant to be. The existence of `claude -p` is confusing to me.
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