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Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

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Who do you see as the “legitimate military target” in America due to America’s war of aggression on Iran? You imply it would be any military officer, anywhere, at any time, retired or not.

> Who do you see as the “legitimate military target” in America due to America’s war of aggression on Iran? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes Also, even Trump himself, when asked about the possibility of Iran conducting attacks on US soil, stated the following: > "Like I said, some people will die. When you go to war, some people will die." So what point do you think you're making?

I am not at all sure what point you are trying to make, because I was not making any point. I was just asking a question to, I believe, suss out a point that is seemingly far closer to what you are saying than not. I was asking the question to make the person think, follow the logic to at least a a few steps, because the mentality that was being expressed is extremely reckless and dangerous, let alone criminally illegal, i.e., assassinating military officers hors de combat.

The problem humanity now faces is that one side in this conflict is extremely psychopathic and narcissistis that will do anything and everything to retain control and power.

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

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Correct. The US assassinated Iran's leader and dozens of their military officers. Do you seriously believe Iran would somehow be in the wrong to kill any American officer it can? It is eerie how closely the American mentality parallels that of the German regime. "The Nazis entered this war on the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody and nobody was going to bomb them."

I understand your sentiment, but all parties, including the Israeli state are signatories and have ratified the Geneva Convention, making the actions of Israel and it's American attack oaf (full disclosure, I am American, whatever that even still means) war crimes, and technically based on the precedent from the Nurenberg trial, makes the USA and arguably its accessory, Israel responsible and guilty of all war crimes…

I get the sense this is coming as news to you. But it was always this way, going back as far as international law has really been a thing.

The Nuremberg trials were a glorified kangaroo court, so obviously a sham that even a US Supreme Court justice voiced their opposition. They made a mockery of the concept of law, trying people for laws that did not exist at the time the alleged crimes were committed, and more to the point, even for war crimes that the US and Allies themselves also committed and did not prosecute themselves for. The concept of "war crimes" has never been anything more than a thin veil over winner's justice, dressed up nice and pretty to seem less barbaric. And, to be fair, the Nazis were unfathomably barbaric and earned barbaric treatment - I doubt many would particularly object to summary execution of high-ranking Nazis after the war. But the US turned its retribution into a massive propaganda coup about international justice, upon which it placed itself as the ruler of.

The US, of course, exempted itself from international justice. Ever. Not only does it not punish its own war criminals, it refuses to ratify any treaties like participation in the ICC that would give international accountability to its own soldiers for war crimes, and even further still, it signed into law an act that authorizes the invasion of the Netherlands if an American were ever to be tried at the Hague. Whatever you thought international justice was, for your entire life, has been a propaganda-laden sham. It never existed. The only thing that ever existed was winner's justice. The winners kill the losers at their pleasure. That's all it ever was. In the sense that there's a calamity, it's not because of the collapse of any international institutions, because they were always an illusion made to benefit the powerful.

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

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> not committing war crimes that would make people want to hunt you down and kill you People may want to kill you for different reasons though. No need to commit any crimes.

Hmm yeah but then I'm one of 80 million choices in my country. Committing war crimes tends to single one out. I do really value my privacy but the problem is one doesn't control this very much. Recently in Holland one of the major ISPs got breached and 6 million customers got their data leaked. This is something you can't take control as a customer and you're not going to move every time this happens. Also, not too l…

>Hmm yeah but then I'm one of 80 million choices in my country.

If we are talking about some sandom terrorist or something like that, yes.

But sometimes it's more personal despitethe fact that you did nothing wrong objectevly.

Jealocity (you got a girl and her ex. took it too close to heart), envy, disputes in an alterd stated (drunk figh). Etc.

My uncle (mother's side) has a schizophrenia and constantly threatens to find someone to kill me and my entire family (including his sister of course).

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

#544
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Wow, that is a good one. I'm surprised that I've not heard of it. Maybe not admitting something officially really does help in keeping something out of press. The list of intercept stations is comic: all except ~4 are in US or allied countries that are far from any adversaries.

MKUltra was another government program that was widely run but kept secret. Not so fun fact, the UnaBomber was one of the subjects of that program and it is said that his personality changed drastically afterwards. Note his wiki page doesn't call out MKULTRA or government links by name... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKUltra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/06/12/the-unab…

Unabomber-CIA connection is wild. This is great stuff.

> There are some who claim the dirision associated with the term Conspiracy theory is in fact a Conspiracy..

Haha, that's entertaining. I've heard of quite a few stories, some proven, that CIA or similar agencies were fabricating evidence and bribing people to _create_ conspiracy theories. I believe one such case was a diary discovered related to "Richard E. Byrd's North Pole Flight". If I recall correctly the person that found it later admitted that he was bribed or coerced to do so. I can't look up sources now, might try and look it up later today.

It makes sense. If conspiracies are leaking, you can create fake leaks and then discredit them. Shaming and marginalization is great too.

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

#545

About 3 years ago, a former russian submarine commander accused of a missile attack in Ukraine that killed 23 civilians, was shot and killed, apparently after his route was tracked via Strava https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/11/europe/russian-submarine-... https://gijn.org/stories/investigations-using-strava-fitness...

Crazy to die because you used a jogging app. Really goes to show the value of privacy. And, you know, not committing war crimes that would make people want to hunt you down and kill you. Either or.

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Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

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It doesn't need to be anything nearly that dramatic as assassins, because economies of scale both lower the bar and make most attacks impersonal . Consider how odd it would be for someone in 2025 to say: "Computer security?I haven't done anything to personally offend a genius hacker." Imagine this data going to a burglar, who has a digital dashboard of nearby one-person properties and when the owner is likely to be o…

What a weird comment. The type of low-end criminal who commits home burglaries aren't sophisticated enough to do that level of research.

I'd recommend reading 'Confessions of a Master Jewel Thief' -- normal dude, just decides to spend a career stealing shit for fun.

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

#548

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The CdG incident is a little more serious given that about 90% of attacking a ship is figuring out where it is. Land bases don't move around and tend to be known already.

TBF a carrier group cannot be hidden from near-peer adversaries. I remember seeing a project that used CV with open data sat providers that could find smaller boats than that. (iirc they used a wake classifier, as that was the most obvious tell, even if the boat was small enough to not have enough pixels for identification).

Pretty sure they'd light up on basic yacht radar too.

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

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It's this kind of incident that gives me faith that the military isn't hiding aliens and in fact pretty much any grand conspiracy that requires secrecy across a large group of people for long periods of time can pretty much be dismissed immediately. One of my favorite examples are the soldiers who leaked classified information to win arguments on online forums [1]. Similar incidents have occurred with a Minecraft Dis…

To add to your point, the War Thunder leaks aren't isolated to one or two incidents; they keep happening! IIRC, every UN security council member has had classified military documents leaked multiple times. Regarding aliens, there's just no way that an E-4 wouldn't have posted dozens of pictures to prove that 'The Grays' are actually more of a purple color.

Most of the War Thunder leaks just aren't. What frequently happens is that people go and dig up a manual that's published openly in America but controlled under ITAR (I think), post it, and Gaijin delete the post and ban them because it's technically illegal to "export" the information and trying not to get involved in crimes is usually a good idea.

Then, because "someone's leaked classified data on War Thunder again!!!" is a standard story that you can publish with zero effort and get lots of clicks on, people post formulaic articles about it. But it's nothing that would be of any use at all to actual spies, they can just go on the internet and read the manuals themselves. Nothing like as spectacular as the actual classified leaks, which were incredible but have not been anywhere near as common as people think based on reporting.

Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

#550

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Crazy to die because you used a jogging app. Really goes to show the value of privacy. And, you know, not committing war crimes that would make people want to hunt you down and kill you. Either or.

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You're in a very weak position to attempt whataboutism, tovarishch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariupol_theatre_airstrike

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_March_2022_Chernihiv_bombing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16_March_2022_Chernihiv_breadl...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_2023_Chernihiv_missile_...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_strikes_against_Ukrain...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Dnipro_residential_buildi...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8_July_2024_Russian_strikes_on...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaplyne_railway_station_attac...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyman_cluster_bombing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kramatorsk_railway_station_att...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Kramatorsk_restaurant_mis...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_2022_Chasiv_Yar_missile_s...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_2023_Sloviansk_airstrike

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Kostiantynivka_supermarke...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Yarova_attack

And many more, the Russian armed forces being the consistent all-time barbarian horde of Europe.

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