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Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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The left wing constantly says “we started letting women work”. Women have worked for thousands of years. The phenomenon of manipulating women into believing working for a corporation is some kind of “higher calling” is relatively new, and it’s been a disaster for the family unit.

I mean women recognize that they've worked for thousands of years and wanted to start getting paid for it.

> I mean women recognize that they've worked for thousands of years and wanted to start getting paid for it.

Another case of capitalist thinking infecting everything. Why must the market swallow everything? It's fucking totalitarian.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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> If parents/schools don't want to implement it, that's on them Well that's not much of a solution is it now? More like an attempt that we all can see will fail. Harm reduction is not the same as a solution.

I'm not sure why I need to debate against obvious illogical positions, but here we go: > Well that's not much of a solution is it now? More like an attempt that we all can see will fail. Some entities not wanting to implement a perfectly fine technical solution is not the same as "that's not a solution". If schools not bothering is your issue, just like the state can mandate a "age verification", it can also mandate…

> There's no perfect solution

A solution—ie, solving a problem—does in fact imply perfection.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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> If parents/schools don't want to implement it, that's on them Well that's not much of a solution is it now? More like an attempt that we all can see will fail. Harm reduction is not the same as a solution.

But it is an argument against age restrictions since you could just as easily pass a law that instead required schools to enable various filters. You could even require mainstream devices from major manufacturers to support certain filtering standards. And you could require websites to send self categorization headers. There is no valid argument for why ID checks are necessary if the goal is simply to get filtering i…

I don't really give a damn about the freedom to say stuff on the internet, so you're trying to convince the wrong person.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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> Yeah, because the parent's time is now dedicated to their employers. When parenting wasn't outsourced, families typically had a parent at home doing it. This seems to imply that the problem is that we started letting women work, but I suspect the actual problem is back to restrictive zoning again. If you let people actually build housing, and then some people have two incomes, they use the extra money to build a bi…

The left wing constantly says “we started letting women work”. Women have worked for thousands of years. The phenomenon of manipulating women into believing working for a corporation is some kind of “higher calling” is relatively new, and it’s been a disaster for the family unit.

> The left wing constantly says “we started letting women work”.

I’ve literally never seen anyone on the left (and rarely even the liberal capitalist center-right) say that. I’ve seen people on the hard right, when complaining, use that framing, though.

And, look, here its part of a complaint glorifying the defects of the capitalist-patriarchal family and whining that more equal treatment of women in the economic sphere hurt the “family unit” rather than recognizing that capitalism wrecks the family unit and greater equality for women just reduces the particular systematic of oppression of women within the capitalist-patriarchal system, but neither cures nor causes the damage to the family unit that comes from capitalism.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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I wish iOS 26.4 didn't bother because I'm stuck with an immovable "verify you're 18+" flag[0] in Settings even though it was well into the previous century when I was even near 18. [0] I have no credit card and it won't accept debit cards. It also won't use the fact that I've had an Apple account and spent 10s of thousands in my own name at their damn shops, online and real life, over the last 2 decades (and Apple/pa…

You should hope the California law passes, because it'll be illegal for them to verify you're 18+ instead of just asking you whether you're 18+.

> You should hope the California law passes

Californian law won't apply in the UK, sadly.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Controlling what children do online is a solved problem: Parenting and parental control applications. Spoken as someone who probably hasn't used iOS/Mac parental controls. It is a hot buggy mess that randomly blocks whitelisted applications as well. We use it, but it is a constant pain. Also a lot of applications only work half, e.g., TV apps blocking off all content rather than only content that is not age-appropria…

The addiction economy is hard to deal with for anyone - regardless of age. So, I agree this is definitely not a solved problem, but from what I see the only viable way forward is actually to do pretty drastic things like not own a smartphone.

If these laws pass you could also enable parental controls for your own account.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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How many kids do you have? What software do you use for this continuous monitoring? How do you balance spending 18 hours a day continuously monitoring your children, with also working full-time and being a human yourself? Please elaborate on your personal system because I think you could help out a lot of people. I am strongly against this age verification, I think this is an absolutely, catastrophically terrible ide…

having children is a choice. Therefore, the difficulty of that choice is not really a factor in our lawmaking nor should it be.

If we make laws that make it impractical to have children, I'm sure this will have no consequences for the country's future.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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All discussion of foreign affairs is the discussion of domestic affairs somewhere.

So it seems normal that a bunch of politicians, in the current climate, got together and decided that the weakest form of age verification imaginable absolutely had to get passed everywhere? That's incomprehensible to me.

No, some of them are trying to pass stronger forms which is bad

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Why are Linux operating system providers taking it upon themselves to comply with the California law especially if they are not selling anything. Since it is just a downloadable piece of software then it is up to California state to set up a firewall to protect themselves from such harmful software. Let's say I am a generic linux developer who develops variants of Debian Linux while sitting in my basement in any part…

because the laws are coming with massive fines and penalties that will apply to people not even selling anything unless you can confidently dodge American law enforcement, which is a big ask unless you are solidly anonymous somehow, then you are forced to react in some way

There's a huge fine in North Korea, perhaps even death, for saying "Kim Jong-un is a poopyhead" but I just said it and I don't care because I'm not in North Korea and I don't do any business there.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Because despite the screeching, having good parental controls standardized across distros and OSS software is an idea that benefits Linux as a whole.

Parents already have full control over this because they make the choice to give their kids a device in the first place

Do they have full control or do they only have a choice between two extreme options?
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