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Post by imagetic »

vader_n wrote: post #529
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #514

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Kodak comes to mind. They invented digital photography, but their film people deliberately kneecapped their digital people. Killed the company. I worked for a camera company that made boatloads of cash from point-and-shoot cameras. That entire business was pretty much turned into chum by smartphones. I remember them refusing to even take the iPhone seriously, when it was announced. They took a serious hit, but seem t…

Can you post good articles on what you said.

That’s a non AI search away.

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Post by bilekas »

direwolf20 wrote: post #513
nephihaha wrote: post #253

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It's a monopoly. Unless you are a wealthy hipster with money to burn on Apple products. (They also spy on you.)

A monopoly on what? The most popular OS is from Google.

Where are you getting this info from? Windows' consumer market share is not even being challenged right now.

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Post by Root_Denied »

concats wrote: post #511
solid_fuel wrote: post #496

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> That said, this business model has historically proven effective for companies such as IBM. It is until it isn't, but I think this is the same trap as not training up junior engineers. The consumer market is often where future engineers and professionals first interact with technology, being exposed to Windows early and being able to use it at school and at home have always been major drivers of adoption at work. L…

What choice do they really have though? More and more consumers completely forgo owning a regular computer and only use a phone or a tablet now a days. And among the ones who do own a computer there's still a strong trend towards not paying for software, presumably a behavior taught to them by the overwhelming success of strictly ad-financed apps. It's easy to forget that us here on HN are several standard deviations…

Windows 8 was supposed to dig into that mobile device/tablet market, as well as the Windows phone. You can argue about why Win8 was a titanic failure that pushed a backtrack in 8.1 (and Win10), but it seems like Microsoft didn't really know how to approach the space at the time and failed to commit to a trend they correctly identified early enough that they could have capitalized better on it.

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by xattt »

evanjrowley wrote: post #161
SSLy wrote: post #73

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"please drink the verification can"

The biometric version of the S/Key OTP algorithm: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1760 Best we can hope for is Microsoft dogfoods the feature first.

Without clicking the link, I am going to assume that S/Key is stool-key verification.

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Post by lproven »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #532
lproven wrote: post #525

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> Nadella has been the best thing to happen to MS since Gates. Wow. My impression, as an MS watcher since 1988, is the exact reverse: that he is guiding the death-spiral.

Depends. Number go up, and he's good at that.

Good point, at least for certain values of "good".

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Post by capitainenemo »

direwolf20 wrote: post #483
capitainenemo wrote: post #193

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My family switched to Gnome 2 a couple of decades ago. My mother quite liked it and has consistently installed it on every new computer she bought. Her only confusion lately has been with the ubuntu snap packages and how they behave between multiple accounts on the machine. These days she uses MATE which still offers that Gnome 2 layout. Awesome thing about Linux is that option to fork, so her desktop environment has…

GNOME has changed drastically. It's nothing like Gnome 2.

I agree. I was putting a shout out for MATE as the option for those who want a predictable traditional UI since it is essentially the long-term maintenance of GNOME 2.

When GNOME 3 was first released, I gave it an honest try for several months but it just did not do what I wanted in a UI. MATE competes well with XFCE on memory usage, still has optional acceleration, and had a more consistent interface with more features (although XFCE has improved). And the fact that those in the family don't have to learn a new layout really helps.

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by cluckindan »

TOMDM wrote: post #452
cluckindan wrote: post #56

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insult (verb): to say or do something to someone that is rude or offensive Corporate personhood at its finest.

Why just make up a definition? From the oxford dictionary: Noun: speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. Verb: a disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or act. Note the lack of personhood in those definitions. I can insult an object, event, person, corporation or even an idea.

The definition is from the Cambridge dictionary.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/insult

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by Cyphase »

ralferoo wrote: post #20

Hehe, this reminds me of 30 years ago when people used to stylise it as Micro$oft or creatively misspell it as Microshaft, etc. Even on the Amiga, there was the filesystem that could read PC format disks that was called MessyDos. It just seems like the next generation has discovered what an easy name it is to make puns from.

In a world without walls or fences, who needs Windows or Gates?

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Post by wolvoleo »

natas wrote: post #383

I recently had dinner in Bellevue with an individual who holds a relatively senior position within Microsoft’s executive leadership. During our conversation, she emphasized repeatedly that Microsoft does not primarily view its offerings as consumer products. According to her, the company’s leadership is strongly focused on B2B strategy, with revenue growth driven mainly by Azure, AI, and enterprise solutions. Her per…

See where IBM is now though. Between some legacy hardware and random consulting services, they don't really have much of a strategy. They just exist because people still need them for old stuff and because older people trust their name. They used to lead the industry. Now they're not leading anything.

Of course their enterprise focus wasn't their only failure. But it was a factor in one of the biggest failures: their underestimation of the importance of the PC. They allowed Microsoft to market DOS to clones because they didn't see the potential.

So yeah I think their focus on enterprise was one of their biggest failures.

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Post by wolvoleo »

Root_Denied wrote: post #543
concats wrote: post #511

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What choice do they really have though? More and more consumers completely forgo owning a regular computer and only use a phone or a tablet now a days. And among the ones who do own a computer there's still a strong trend towards not paying for software, presumably a behavior taught to them by the overwhelming success of strictly ad-financed apps. It's easy to forget that us here on HN are several standard deviations…

Windows 8 was supposed to dig into that mobile device/tablet market, as well as the Windows phone. You can argue about why Win8 was a titanic failure that pushed a backtrack in 8.1 (and Win10), but it seems like Microsoft didn't really know how to approach the space at the time and failed to commit to a trend they correctly identified early enough that they could have capitalized better on it.

If they thought windows 8 would tap the mobile market then they really didn't understand much of that market at all.

Meanwhile windows phone was pretty good actually but they killed it way too early. They had an app gap but time and money would have solved it.

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