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Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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post #189

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This is my favorite part of this story. Do you want remote code execution? Because [fixing things that aren't broken] is how you get remote code execution.

Meanwhile TextEdit on Mac always rendered HTML. Which seems useless until you realize it can also edit and save as HTML. So there's casually a wysiwyg web editor built into macOS that idk how many people use.

Ok wysiwyg web editor is maybe overselling it. You can make a text-only page in it. Still neat.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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post #454

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wat????? wtf why?????????

So you subscribe to the Microsoft CoPilot 365 App or whatever it's called now.

hmm... ok maybe that's reasonable

charge extra premium for a "secure vanilla-text™ pure unadulterated wysiwyg editor" experience should be a thing for the "security-minded" enterprises

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Both Wordpad and Win11-Notepad use the RichEdit control (which first appeared in Win95, brought to you by the Mail client group aka Capone - cuz no one else wanted to do a RichEdit text control). see https://devblogs.microsoft.com/math-in-office/windows-11-not... and https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/mfc/rich-edit-control-... The RichEdit control handles parsing RTF (I believe there was a CVE-level bug about RTF-…

I think I remember RichEdit from Windows 3.1, but maybe it was always installed with the OLE common controls and not shipped with the OS.

The RichEdit control was first shipped in Win95.

Exchange 4.0 email client app (shipped in 1996) had a Win16-bit version which included RichEdit.

see https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/archive/blogs/murrays/rich...

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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post #523

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More code = more vulnerabilites. It's a simple fact. Complexity kills.

Sell your computer. Now you have perfect security! Fun fact: you can uninstall Notepad if you don’t like it.

Congrats for completely missing the point.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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I think I remember RichEdit from Windows 3.1, but maybe it was always installed with the OLE common controls and not shipped with the OS.

The RichEdit control was first shipped in Win95. Exchange 4.0 email client app (shipped in 1996) had a Win16-bit version which included RichEdit. see https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/archive/blogs/murrays/rich...

Cheers, thanks

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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post #196

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reading about political messaging in any software should make you AVOID it, not "wishing to have it" the moment software stops being neutral, it becomes a target

I guess this is true in a professional context - you don't want your user's or company's data somehow becoming compromised because of your choice of text editor. But, at the same time, that's exactly the sort of thinking that's killed off that feeling I'm sentimental for. As a free human being, I don't want to live in fear of expressing my political views; and as someone who wants to view the software I make as a for…

There's another reason to avoid agitating massive numbers of people, beyond fear. It's just not a reasonable thing to do. Like what do you really accomplish? There was that one guy who's mind was somehow changed by a random slogan. Unfortunately, he changed to the other side after seeing their even catchier slogan (it had italics!) a few days later.

You're not changing people's minds and you're simultaneously agitating both many of those who disagree with you as well as plenty who are neutral or even agree with you, as seeing politics shoved somewhere it doesn't belong is something many people do not appreciate, regardless of how those politics may or may not align with their own.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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If I told you to stop using computers, and then you won't have computer problems, I don't think you would find that particularly helpful or charitable either, would you? What you find a trusty "low-level" tool is a demo application for a basic WYSIWYG text editor. They modernized it so that it remains being perceived that way, instead of letting it be increasingly misclassified as a legacy product for the enthusiast,…

> letting it be increasingly misclassified "No, it's the customers who are wrong."

From their (supposed) perspective, yes. That's the idea I wanted to convey indeed.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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post #498

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I've found that ( at least for me ) that was caused by some entries doing some checks before showing up. Getting a context menu editor and removing some of them can help.

Doesn't matter, it's a shit user experience and Microsoft's fault for putting the onus on the user to fiddle around at that level, rather than putting a hard, very low limit on how long shell extensions can hold up the context menu before they're banned from it.

> rather than putting a hard, very low limit on how long shell extensions can hold up the context menu before they're banned from it.

Do you want the users to blame Microsoft, all Microsoft employees including catering and cleaning workers, and Gates personally? This is how you make the users blame all the before mentioned but not the culprit.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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post #523

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Sell your computer. Now you have perfect security! Fun fact: you can uninstall Notepad if you don’t like it.

Congrats for completely missing the point.

I got the point. I just disagree with the merit of the point.

Microsoft decided that additional complexity for the notepad application is worth the tradeoffs. I tend to agree with them: Notepad is traditionally most heavily used to peruse readme files, which today are primarily written in Markdown. Therefore, having Markdown support as a first-class feature makes good sense.

Furthermore, I point out that it is an optional application that can be uninstalled.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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post #260

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Which response are we talking about which was problematic?

Hurting MAGA feelings or criticising Israel I'd guess.

I'm worried a political activist might go off the rails at some point for whatever their cause is and I have their software running on my computer... I don't want to be part of someone else's crusade.
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