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Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by vee-kay »

jltsiren wrote: post #325
gscott wrote: post #119

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People seem to forget how many companies Bill Gates put out of business by using their designs. It takes years to sue and win damages minus lawyer fees. Then to try to whitewash his reputation by giving the money away.

I think it's the opposite. People remember how Bill Gates got rich. They remember that the damage he caused mostly affected capitalists and professionals in developed countries. His businesses mostly didn't abuse labor in developing countries. He didn't cause that much environmental damage. He didn't undermine democracy and the society that much. People remember that Bill Gates played the game and won, and the damage…

>I think it's the opposite. People remember how Bill Gates got rich. That rags-to-riches myth about Bill Gates is not true.

He was a Harvard dropout, but not some poor kid.

Bill Gates was always rich. But with Micro$oft's success, he became a lot lot richer later.

His mom sat on some major committee at IBM. She had significant clout there.

That's how Bill even got the chance to pitch a new OS when the IBM big bosses were looking to unleash their new PCs.

Do you really think they just yanked a school dropout from the streets into their boardroom to decide important business future for their company?

Paul Allen had started Microsoft with Bill Gates. It was Bill's mom who pitched Microsoft as a potential partner to IBM's CEO John Opel.

Bill Gates scouted and found a chap (Tim Paterson) having a working prototype called 86-DOS. And Bill purchased it (with his family money), rebranded it as PC-DOS and sold it to IBM (but he cunningly kept the copyright as he rightly figured that other manufacturers would clone the IBM PC hardware and would need a DOS for their PCs (thus, he later licensed the new OS to non-IBM PCs as MS-DOS)). I daresay his mom was instrumental in such cunning dealmaking.

>That's why they are willing to give Gates a chance to redeem himself by using his money for good. The problem is that he is using his wealth for some shady stuff, so it is not good.

Bill Gates's name is mentioned in the Epstein files, for some unsavory links to that child molestor.

And his BGMF (Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation) got banned in India from funding local NGOs, because a Parliamentary committee indicted BGMF's involvement and funding for shady and shoddy vaccine trials on tens of thousands of poor Indian tribal children without informed consent and under false aegis.

Be careful whom you consider your heroes. They may not be all they seem to be.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by gtowey »

arjie wrote: post #260
moralestapia wrote: post #5

Excerpt from one of the related emails (written by JE): "great proposal„ however, it needs to be more around deception alice -bob. communication. virus hacking, battle between defense and infiltration.. computation is already looked at in various fields. camoflauge , mimickry, signal processing, and its non random nature, misinformation. ( the anti- truth - but right answer for the moment ).. computation does not inv…

Well, it's a prompt to his assistant. It's more short-hand communication than anything else. My self-notes often look like that. They're just phrases to bring to mind some ideas rather than others or direct towards something. Someone[3] mentioned how he sounded in an interview and I went and found his conversation with Steve Bannon. My daughter just went back to sleep and I'm not one for listening to stuff anyway so…

> A few of the examples are that he describes the subprime crisis as originating in Clinton-era home-ownership reform that pressured government lenders to essentially back many subprime mortgages (expanded during the Bush-era).

But I think that's incorrect. The lynchpin of the subprime crisis was really the repeal of the Glass-Steagall act in 1998, which made sure that consumer-facing banks had strict limits on how much they could be leveraged in their investments. This set them apart from investment banks which were allowed to take bigger risks.

Then, a bunch of financial fuckery in new kinds derivatives generated the idea that they had "solved" the risk factor of subprime mortgages and that they could open the floodgates on accepting any and all mortgages without doing any of the traditional underwriting. They sliced them into tranches using a magic formula which nobody understood and sold them off. The ratings agencies helped by stamping this garbage with top grades and tricking institutional investors into holding the bag.

The result was that when it all imploded the US consumers were the ones who got hosed -- because those consumer banks were over-leveraged in these bad investments.

It was criminal activity all the way. It was conspiracy to make billions of the short-term commissions on all the mortgage transaction activity, while sticking someone else with the toxic waste.

It was not a simple policy decision from the 90's. That narrative is just another way for the oligarchs to rewrite history and evade responsibility. Ensuring that we'll learn nothing and they can do this all over again once people forget.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by vee-kay »

myrmidon wrote: post #437
vee-kay wrote: post #420

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Your primary point is "the study harmed participants, and Gates is responsible" But your own report contradicts this, and finds the deaths unrelated. You also argue that Gates is suspect, because HPV vaccine trials were only done in India. This is also false, I sourced that already in the previous response, you did not comment on it. You keep coming back to the same Indian Parliamentary committee report, which explic…

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Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by CGMthrowaway »

fragmede wrote: post #535
cucumber3732842 wrote: post #529

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>Every marginal dollar* taxed is a dollar politicians don't have to scrounge from a wealthy donor, in order to get that politician's pet interests achieved. You fundamentally misunderstand the relationship. The donors donate because the politician will then direct more money at the donors interests. I spend $1mil on lobbying, $1mil on bunk science at labs I fund or astro turf'd grass roots support (something the gove…

If you're getting back $6 million, just spend $1 million each on both candidates so it doesn't matter which one wins.

Now I'm starting to understand why the US seems to end up funding both sides of every conflict in the Mideast

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by bawolff »

onraglanroad wrote: post #531
bawolff wrote: post #417

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Deflation is a very bad thing...

Of course it is. Things getting cheaper is really bad for the economy. That's why computers never became an industry, they just kept getting cheaper every year so nobody bought them. If only computing power had kept getting more expensive every year, we might have some kind of tech industry!

A single (luxury) sector getting cheaper is not the same thing as generalized deflation

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by zozbot234 »

IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #534
alphazard wrote: post #258

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Taxation is the mechanism that moves power from the people to the government, and increasingly politicians and their specific interests. Do you actually believe that if your taxes went up, power would be less concentrated, or that you or your countrymen would have more power? Every government goon doing authoritarian dirty work collects a paycheck and wouldn't do their job without it.

Take that to the next level. How about taxing the...Government ? For example: I am a teacher. I run for office. I win. Now, as a consequence of my win, my tax bracket for the rest of my life, is 100% after i exceed the higher of either: a) my elected official salary, OR b) the average last 5 years of W2 income, OR c) the average last 2 years of W2 income. You'd delete inmediately all the grifters getting into governm…

This would have deeply weird and counterproductive effects on election candidacies; ultimately, people are willing to do their duty for the country, but not at the expense of their entire future income growth. It's the constituents' job to vote for better candidates, there are no foolproof rules beyond that.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by Schmerika »

throw9235837 wrote: post #396
Rzor wrote: post #378

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>As a European, I find it very funny to see how nobody in the US is willing to address the elephant in the room called Mossad. This is driving me up the wall. Look, I know part of this talk/accusation [about Mossad] is coming from Nazi/antisemitic circles, so people being hesitant to engage makes a bit of sense. But come on, it's not a stretch to consider. The idea that the US would let a Russian operation go uncheck…

Something “not-being-a-stretch” doesn’t need any consideration without evidence.

There's no shortage of evidence of a strong relationship there [0], [1].

What's missing is definitive proof, so far at least. I think you're conflating the two. Evidence and proof are different things - see [2] for a good example of this conflation used the other way.

Anyway, yeah, you can very seriously consider this based on the evidence already out there. Considering the stakes, it would be kinda silly not to imo.

0 - https://www.commondreams.org/news/epstein-israeli-intelligen...

1 - https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA000903...

2 - @NormalIsandNws on X:

“Here is the proof Epstein was a Russian asset:

- his girlfriend was the daughter of a Mossad agent

- one of his best friends was Israel's lawyer

- another of his best friends was a former Israeli prime minister

- he met with the current Israeli prime minister

- a senior Israeli spy would stay at his house for weeks at a time

- a friend invited him to bring his girls to Israel

- he fled to Israel when he was charged with sex crimes against a minor

- he was pictured wearing an IDF shirt

- he was funded by pro-Israel fanatics

- he worked for the Rothschilds

- he donated to pro-Israel student groups

- he was responsible for the Wexner group's "pro-Israel philanthropy"

- he supported Israeli settlement projects

- his friends were all Zionists

- he scathingly referred to non -Jews as "goyim"

- he was involved in Israeli diplomacy efforts

- he brokered security deals for Israel

- he aimed to profit from regime changes in the Middle East

- a former Israeli intelligence officer said he ran a honeypot for Israel

- his business partner confirmed he ran a honeypot for Israel

- one of his victims confirmed he ran a honeypot for Israel

As you can see, all of this was done for the benefit of Russia. There is no other explanation.”

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by pfdietz »

anigbrowl wrote: post #473
jMyles wrote: post #447

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With a bunch of specific exceptions, violence is handled by the states, so it depends on the state in which it occurred. My best guess is that it's some kind of criminal offense in all 50.

Isn't use of the internet to facilitate crimes commonly cited as a reason for federal prosecution, on the grounds that all internet communications involve interstate commerce?

Wire Fraud

https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual...

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by rawgabbit »

direwolf20 wrote: post #183
rawgabbit wrote: post #10

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Pseudo-intellectual aka bullshitter. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pseudo-intellectu... computation does not involve defending against interception, a key area for biological systems, . He is confused about software/programming/hacking. Hacking absolutely involves intercepting messages e.g., man in the middle attack. I have no idea what he thinks biological systems is; does he think that bacteria/viruses…

biology is all about thermodynamics. Why do you think we eat?

Not the same. We eat to get macro nutrients: fats, protein, and carbohydrates.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Post by anigbrowl »

timschmidt wrote: post #525
anigbrowl wrote: post #477

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But such groups are almost invariably coordinated. In a legislature based on sortition, there will be a percentage of busybodies/ assholes/ opportunists but they'll have a coordination problem, opponents, and term limits acting to restrain them.

Term limits incentivize a deep state exactly one layer removed from those to which the limits apply, as a repository of institutional knowledge about how things actually get done.

This seems rational. We on't have term limits int he US Congress and it doesn't seem any the better for it.

Japan, a heavily bureaucratized country, systematically moves junior and mid-tier staff around in some departments to minimize the possibility of nest-feathering and empire-building, although I would not say it's perfect by a long way.

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