Live data from Hacker News

New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

blog.adafruit.com

541–550 of 861 posts

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

#542
post #533

Earlier quoted context omitted.

EURion marks are a feature you must include on your banknote for it to even be considered real. And it's _one_ feature. It's relatively trivial to make a chip which can detect their presence. On the other hand, if I need a replacement part for something, it's unlikely I will find the manufacturer giving me models for it. And if a manufacturer is giving me models for it, they probably do so with the explicit expectati…

As an European I'd say any USAnite can almost get a gun with breakfast cereal boxes. But weapons' culture in the US it's obsolete. Militias can't do shit against tyranical govs because once they send drones it's game over.

> But weapons' culture in the US it's obsolete. Militias can't do shit against tyranical govs because once they send drones it's game over.

Pretty sure those 50 thousand or so civilians killed on the street in the recent Iranian protests/riots would have been a lot less, if all those Iranians had easy access to guns, and not just the government.

Drones are not enough, you still need boots on the ground for you to claim control over a territory, and boots on the ground think twice about signing up for service if that includes facing armed mobs with guns on a daily basis.

So no, mobs with guns are not obsolete.

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

#543
post #533

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an European I'd say any USAnite can almost get a gun with breakfast cereal boxes. But weapons' culture in the US it's obsolete. Militias can't do shit against tyranical govs because once they send drones it's game over.

> But weapons' culture in the US it's obsolete. Militias can't do shit against tyranical govs because once they send drones it's game over. Pretty sure those 50 thousand or so civilians killed on the street in the recent Iranian protests/riots would have been a lot less, if all those Iranians had easy access to guns, and not just the government. Drones are not enough, you still need boots on the ground for you to cla…

Mob with guns would be useless against the Iranian Guards which are pretty much elite commandos.

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

#544

This is ridiculous. As WIRED has shown [0], the only 3D printed part of most "3D printed" guns is the frame. You can do only so much with the frame alone. All the other parts are sourced online and much easier to get, other than getting a 3D printer and finding the frame of the gun you want to print it for. Maybe these advocating for gun control laws for 3D printers should first advocate for stricter control on selli…

It'll also just drive people to refactor designs into parts that pass individually.

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

#545

My main concern is, how long is it before you can't print a replacement part for something you bought because it looks too similar to an OEM part and the manufacturer doesn't think you should be able to do that so they throw a little money to the right politician.

IP/BigCo lawyers are probably the main lobbyists behind this article in the bill so I would think soonish

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

#546
post #543

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But weapons' culture in the US it's obsolete. Militias can't do shit against tyranical govs because once they send drones it's game over. Pretty sure those 50 thousand or so civilians killed on the street in the recent Iranian protests/riots would have been a lot less, if all those Iranians had easy access to guns, and not just the government. Drones are not enough, you still need boots on the ground for you to cla…

Mob with guns would be useless against the Iranian Guards which are pretty much elite commandos.

What's the commando to civilian ratio in Iran?

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

#547
post #35

But not CNC machines?

Looks like them too, both subtractive and additive manufacturing. Not bending sheet metal though.

Well, at least folks will still be able to make AK-47s:

https://web.archive.org/web/20121128215957/http://www.northe...

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

#548

We’re soon gonna realize that we will need manual kill switches for all tech in case it goes rogue or allows an AI installed somewhere else to go rogue.

only if by "soon" you mean "decades away" at minimum

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

#549

Over here in Europe, it's pretty laborious to get a firearm legally and yet 3D prints for that are not discussed at all. It's surprising to see discussions and bills like these, when there is the second amendment in place. What is fueling this discussion?

? Inherit gun Request the form Fill in the form Background check Visit from plod All good Export form Customs were a pain, but carnet protected Import form Store gun at plods Fill in form Visit from plod Secure gun ok

Two different EU countries Time taken is the most 'labourious' part And grandad's funeral

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

#550

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Who, Mamdani? He's a democratic socialist, not a communist. It's like you just confused RAM with SSD because they both involve gigabytes.

"If there was any system that could guarantee each person housing, whether you call it the abolition of private property or you call it, you know, just a statewide housing guarantee, it is preferable to what is going on right now.", Mamdani, 2020

"We have to ensure we are unapologetic about our socialism", Mamdani, 2021

"There are also other issues we firmly believe in [...] weather is the end goal of seizing the means of production", Mamdani, 2021

"We will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism.", Mamdani, 2026

It's funny. You people go up in arms calling Elon Musk a fascist because he made a suspicious gesture with his right hand. But, then you have a guy outright telling you he wants to "seize the means of production" and you make excuses on why he is not actually a communist.

Post reply on HN