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X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Post by chrisjj »

pyrale wrote: post #471
chrisjj wrote: post #402

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the French suspected Grok/X of something as serious as CSAM, you can bet they would have mentioned it their statement. They didn't. Porn, they did.

The first two points of the official document, which I re-quote below, are about CSAM. > complicité de détention d’images de mineurs présentant un caractère pédopornographique > complicité de diffusion, offre ou mise à disposition en bande organisée d'image de mineurs présentant un caractère pédopornographique [1]: https://www.tribunal-de-paris.justice.fr/sites/default/files...

> The first two points of the official document, which I re-quote below, are about CSAM.

Sorry, but that's a major translation error. "pédopornographique" properly translated is child porn, not child sexual abuse material (CSAM). The difference is huge.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Post by athrowaway3z »

exodust wrote: post #528

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You're defending X/Grok as if it's a public social platform.

It is a privately controlled public-facing group chat. Being a chat-medium does not grant you the same rights as being a person. France isn't America.

If a company operates to the detriment and against the values of a nation, e.g. not paying their taxes or littering in the environment, the nation will ask them to change their behavior.

If there is a conspiracy of contempt, at some point things escalate.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Post by ed_elliott_asc »

exodust wrote: post #528

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At my kids school the children have been using grok to create pics of other children without clothes on - chatgpt etc won’t let you do that - grok needs some controls and x seem unable to do that themselves.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Post by YetAnotherNick »

ed_elliott_asc wrote: post #543
exodust wrote: post #528

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At my kids school the children have been using grok to create pics of other children without clothes on - chatgpt etc won’t let you do that - grok needs some controls and x seem unable to do that themselves.

What would raiding the office achieve in this case apart from just showing off power.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Post by pjc50 »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #546
ed_elliott_asc wrote: post #543

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At my kids school the children have been using grok to create pics of other children without clothes on - chatgpt etc won’t let you do that - grok needs some controls and x seem unable to do that themselves.

What would raiding the office achieve in this case apart from just showing off power.

Normally getting raided by the police causes people and organizations to change their behavior.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Post by blipvert »

toxik wrote: post #489
culi wrote: post #461

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not really different from how we treat any other platform that can host CSAM. I guess the main difference is that it's being "made" instead of simply "distributed" here

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Pro-tip: if you are actively assisting someone in doing illegal things then you are an accomplice.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Post by pjc50 »

techblueberry wrote: post #27

I'm not saying I'm entirely against this, but just out of curiosity, what do they hope to find in a raid of the french offices, a folder labeled "Grok's CSAM Plan"?

Since the release of (some of) the Epstein files, that kind of "let's do some crimes" email seems much more plausible.
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