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Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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Post by array_key_first »

mminer237 wrote: post #246
patentatt wrote: post #174

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I find this humorous but I’m also genuinely curious what the analogy is between fiber and GLPs?

Fiber is essentially mass with little to no nutrition in it. So it makes you feel fuller without adding calories, like GLP-1 drugs. I do think there's a strong argument that lack of fiber and protein are huge contributors to the world's obesity problems.

In most developed countries people eat lots of fiber. Like just unbelievable amounts of meat, more than ever before in human history and prehistory.

Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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lm28469 wrote: post #268
nathanyz wrote: post #261

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What if some people's hunger is louder than others? What if your expended willpower to not overeat is a lot less than what is required by others? I ask these as that is what the GLP-1's are showing. They change the hunger feeling and it might just be that you and others got lucky with a lower hunger feeling than others. There is no objective measure of food noise, but I think we all need to be open to the possibility…

They still have a brain capable of complex thoughts and should be able to prioritise long term health over short term pleasures. Again I don't really care, I managed to help people around me following this dead simple recipe, if you want to make excuses for yourself or others go ahead and suffer. Suffering from obesity is much harder on the body and soul than "suffering" from skipping a snack or counting calories

Wow, you have solved all mental illness. Just change the way your brain works so its normal. Brillant!

Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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Post by MagicMoonlight »

carlmr wrote: post #6

>The share of U.S. households reporting at least one user rose from about 11% in late 2023 to more than 16% by mid-2024. I was wondering how you could get such a high impact overall. But it seems one in 6 households are on GLP-1 drugs in the US. In my friend circle in Germany I don't even know one single person on this stuff. It's insane to me that so many people need these to get off the processed foods killing them…

They wouldn’t tell you that they are on it

Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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Post by buellerbueller »

Dumblydorr wrote: post #197
bargainbin wrote: post #154

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There was an interesting study recently that showed coming off actually caused weight re-gain an order of magnitude worse than yo-yo dieting. The media spun it as GLP-1’s being evil and pointless, quelle surprise, but really it hints towards obesity being more than just “fixing your relationship with food” and acknowledging that there is more we don’t understand about why some people are fatter than others despite si…

Citation? Sounds dubious

https://www.bmj.com/content/392/bmj-2025-085304

"This review found that cessation of WMM [weight management medication] is followed by rapid weight regain and reversal of beneficial effects on cardiometabolic markers. Regain after WMM was faster than after BWMP [behavioral weight management programs]. These findings suggest caution in short term use of these drugs without a more comprehensive approach to weight management."

Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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Post by stasomatic »

francisofascii wrote: post #14

> a handful of categories showed increases. Yogurt rose the most, followed by fresh fruit, nutrition bars and meat snacks. Interesting. Wonder what it is about yogurt and ozempic users. Probiotics?

It’s hard to force yourself to eat at all while on Ozempic. Yet, you need the protein, and yogurt, cottage cheese and protein bars go down easier than regular meals.

Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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Post by array_key_first »

XorNot wrote: post #118
brador wrote: post #111

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Natural protection against overeating.

Such as?

Fiber mostly, but that's not an addictive, I guess that's a subtractive.

But think about, say, oranges. They naturally have fiber in them to make you feel more full and to slow the absorption of sugar. Then we remove all the fiber by juicing them, and now you can eat 6 oranges in 60 seconds, which is typically impossible or, at least, very uncomfortable.

It's the same story for the entire food industry. Whole foods are complex, we often zone in on some aspect of them and extract it, essentially concentrating it.

Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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Post by whatshisface »

margalabargala wrote: post #333
whatshisface wrote: post #310

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Fat does not raise your metabolism by a lot (relatively), and tiny changes in diet lead to massive swings in the equilibrium implied by basal metabolic rate formulas. In fact, some formulas do not include weight due to body fat. If you think about it, that fact touches on the idea that your natural weight is being maintained by another body system, one related to GLP-1. By the way... if humans had to count calories t…

The potential for overeating chronically has not been possible for most people, in most societies, throughout most of human history. Our current caloric abundance being available to literally everyone in Western society is something unique to the past century.

If you eat 1% fewer calories than you burn every day you will die. You will also die if you eat 1% more calories than you burn every day. Is it possible, really, to suggest that the availability of calories was 100% of the daily requirement of our ancestors, and not 99%, or 101%? That is a level of accident that exceeds belief.

It is incredible to think this precise balance could be maintained by anything other than a closed loop of biological control. How would the wheat on a medieval farm know how much to grow each season? If it was off by 1% consistently, everyone would have died... unless they had a mechanism for satiation.

How do you think our microbial ancestors maintained internal salinity, through the limited availability of salt in the ancient ocean?

Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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Post by 542354234235 »

lm28469 wrote: post #431
542354234235 wrote: post #423

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>I also have craving as everyone else This is a pretty massive assumption that your "craving level" is the same as everyone else. This takes a complex process (the feedback from the body to the brain on feelings of hunger, satiety, etc.) and pretends that it is a simple A-B thing. Just for type 1 diabetics, their insulin levels have a huge effect on feelings of hunger, with hyperphagia (feelings of insatiable hunger)…

> This is a pretty massive assumption that your "craving level" is the same as everyone else. We didn't go from sub 10% obesity to 40%+ obesity in 50 years because of people cravings.

It's almost like the difference in the way ultra processed foods are digested, absorbed, and the way hormones are released in response has something to do with that. It's almost like this is a biological process. It's almost like the brain is an organ and if its hormones and chemicals are messed with, that can have health implications. Or maybe it just "don't be lazy".

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Post by sjsdaiuasgdia »

bluedino wrote: post #489
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #313

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When you think of it in the context of a person with not much cash or time to work with, there's other advantages Little Debbie brings... - It's extremely unlikely that any of the snack cakes in a particular box on the shelf have gone bad or have rotten areas. They must carefully inspect a bag of apples for brown spots or risk getting less usable product than they paid for. - The snack cakes can sit at home for a rea…

If you're going to use those excuses, don't forget to add that economically disadvantage folks can't buy in bulk because they don't have enough money, and live in food deserts where people can't buy in bulk, and they don't have anywhere to store those items.

1 box of snack cakes still has better shelf life than 1 bag of apples.

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Post by 8ytecoder »

jrockway wrote: post #378
devilbunny wrote: post #83

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I've known several users of GLP1's. None ever paid more than $600/mo for them once the "patient assistance" programs started, and even in the very earliest days the prices I heard were never more than about $1100 if paid in cash. So, while they are very expensive, your understanding is not reflective of the situation on the ground.

Yeah, Zepbound is $499 now. Out of reach of many, but an improvement from $549 last year. The terms and conditions are confusing. You can only use the half-off coupon they provide if you have prescription drug insurance. Even if insurance doesn't cover it, they still require the processing pharmacy to check that you have some sort of valid insurance and only process the coupon if so. If you fall into that bucket, it'…

Wegovy tablets are $299 now.
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