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Linux gamers on Steam cross over the 3% mark

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Re: Linux gamers on Steam cross over the 3% mark

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Post by tommica »

Novosell wrote: post #535
tommica wrote: post #422

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> And I've not even listed quite a few of my favorites cause they're not popular enough for most people to have heard of them. And you choose then to NOT give those games you love more exposure and share them with the rest of the world?! I'll start: windows version of Uplink game works great in proton, and if you install uplinkos mod on it, it's a super fun Hollywood-style hacking game: https://www.moddb.com/mods/upl…

Heh, sorry. Someone else asked for a list so I made a short one, figured I'll send it here as well :) They range in obscurity, but I'd not rate any of them as "mainstream". In no particular order and in no way an exhaustive list: Lies of P. Baba Is You. Ender Lilies/Magnolia. Rain World. Pillars of Eternity 1/2. Return of the Obra Dinn. What Remains of Edith Finch. the "We Were Here" series. 1000xResist (played this…

Thanks for sharing - I love bloodstained, such a good game!

Re: Linux gamers on Steam cross over the 3% mark

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Post by 4ggr0 »

Gigachad wrote: post #376
4ggr0 wrote: post #178

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If I could install SteamOS on my PC I'd do it!

Bazzite basically is SteamOS for desktop. I’ve got a steam deck and PC with Bazzite and I probably couldn’t tell you which is which if you just showed me a TV with one of them running.

that's interesting to know, wasn't aware of this :) but then i'm even more confused what's wrong with my Bazzite, Steam Big Picture mode is unusable, runs at about 2 fps. i could debug it, but don't really use it anyways, just noticed when starting it.

Re: Linux gamers on Steam cross over the 3% mark

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Post by viktorcode »

bigyabai wrote: post #525
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I think what you are describing is Apple Silicon GPUs delivering good results with sheer power. However, when the same titles are adopting TBDR you'll get faster rendering time or higher resolution. Cyberpunk is a good example of porting properly done. Skipping unnecessary operation during frame rendering is always better for games.

I don't think I am. Even before Apple released Game Porting Toolkit, Crossover could play the game at nearly the same framerate as native: https://youtu.be/mEZJFjhLAbc?t=46 Looking at this kind of footage really does not convince me that "porting properly done" is worth enduring a library with no games. Nevermind the fact that the game runs fine through translation on the $400 Steam Deck hardware. You really are over…

It’s not needed for old games, but as I said: Cyberpunk is an example of port properly done. It’s not something achievable via simulator.

Re: Linux gamers on Steam cross over the 3% mark

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Post by Novosell »

p1necone wrote: post #540
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Hmmmm, sure. I'm not sure if I'd label them "obscure", they've all got a couple 1000 reviews on Steam. But they're certainly not mainstream to the level of my previously listed games(, with Disco Elysium not really being mainstream either tbh, but people know of it to some degree). In no particular order and in no way an exhaustive list: Lies of P. Baba Is You. Ender Lilies/Magnolia. Rain World. Pillars of Eternity 1…

If you liked Obra Dinn you should try out 'The Roottrees are Dead'. Very similar 'fill in the gaps via investigation' core gameplay loop, but I found it more engaging/less repetitive.

Oh I've got my sights on it alright. Looks really interesting but just not been in the mood for such a game as of late :)

Re: Linux gamers on Steam cross over the 3% mark

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Post by 4ggr0 »

4ggr0 wrote: post #542
Gigachad wrote: post #376

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Bazzite basically is SteamOS for desktop. I’ve got a steam deck and PC with Bazzite and I probably couldn’t tell you which is which if you just showed me a TV with one of them running.

that's interesting to know, wasn't aware of this :) but then i'm even more confused what's wrong with my Bazzite, Steam Big Picture mode is unusable, runs at about 2 fps. i could debug it, but don't really use it anyways, just noticed when starting it.

> Steam Big Picture mode is unusable, runs at about 2 fps

can apparently be fixed pretty easily, https://docs.bazzite.gg/General/issues_and_resolutions/#stea...

Re: Linux gamers on Steam cross over the 3% mark

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Post by giancarlostoro »

specproc wrote: post #452
giancarlostoro wrote: post #242

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I did the same, I had jumped into POP OS instead, which is also Ubuntu based, then a year back I got into EndeavourOS an Arch based distro, and have not looked back since. I use it on everything I can put Linux on.

Plus one for an Arch-based system, way better than Ubuntu/Debian for gaming. All these Nvidia driver issues totally disappeared when I switched. Rolling release is a hell of a lot better in this context. SteamOS is Arch, IIRC.

For me it wasnt driver issues, moreso “you need glibc to be a version that Debian / Ubuntu cant upgrade without it being potentially problematic” just to run 3D printer slicer software. I said screw this give me bleeding edge and give it to me now. I had been itching to try something slightly more bleeding edge, Fedora was on my mind but it did not work out as I wanted it to.

Re: Linux gamers on Steam cross over the 3% mark

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Post by zamadatix »

lcampbell wrote: post #411
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What would it even mean for DRM to not be able to work on Linux? Modules would have to disappear, source code would have to become unmodifiable, and Linux would have to remove anything related to rights/privledges/contexts, I suppose? But yes - the problem is Epic doesn't target Linux with it, not that it would be infeasible for Epic to support playing Fortnite on Linux if they changed their minds.

Epic Anti-Cheat fully supports Linux[1]. I believe what the GP comment means is that the Fortnite publishers opted not to tick the “allow Linux” checkbox on the developer portal website. There is probably more nuance behind that decision than I’m giving them credit for, but from a technical standpoint it’s just a checkbox. [1] https://dev.epicgames.com/docs/game-services/anti-cheat/usin...

In full agreement. The problem for GP was never supposed to be highlighting a technical limitation, just the continued problem existing with that nonetheless.

Re: Linux gamers on Steam cross over the 3% mark

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Post by zamadatix »

Jach wrote: post #212
jeroenhd wrote: post #21

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Alternative options: - International Data Corporation is overestimating the amount of shipped Steam Decks. - Modified Steam Decks (i.e. running Bazzite) don't report themselves to be Steam Decks - Most likely: most Steam Deck users opt out of participating in the Steam Hardware survey/analytics. Last year, I didn't participate in the Steam Hardware survey on my Deck, only on my PC. This year, I participated on my Dec…

The third is close but it's even more likely that they just weren't prompted to survey at all rather than opting out. They're surveys, not automatic data harvesting, they don't represent things like Facebook's "total monthly active users". They're just a random sample of users, not a population count. Steam does sometimes report things like monthly active users in their annual reports, but haven't ever broken that do…

You REALLY don't need to care about querying the whole population for these kinds of statistics. Steam has a MAU of at least 132,000,000 users. To randomly sample from just 17,000 users (0.0012% of the MAU) would provide a 99% confidence the sample is within +-0.5% the actual value. Given that you've personally been selected multiple months, they are almost certainly well and above a sampling rate worth worrying about.

The survey does have other statistical noises/biases/errors though - but none nearly as large as this "gap". E.g. internet cafe reuse of the same machines by different accounts means if you're hoping for a "hardware popularity survey" instead of a "hardware users use popularity survey" then the number won't always make sense.

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Post by Rohansi »

ivanjermakov wrote: post #144
Rohansi wrote: post #60

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I've only ever needed to enable Proton for non-Steam games. Are there Steam games that don't have Proton enabled and need it to be manually enabled by the user? (I've only used it on the Steam Deck)

I start non-Steam games with Wine and they run just as good. https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=category&i...

Proton is based on Wine so that's not surprising. If you're already using Steam you might as well use Proton, though.

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

Novosell wrote: post #536
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #296

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Outer Wilds… man, what an experience.

If I could choose a single game to experience again, it would be Outer Wilds. I played it with my partner, streaming it over Discord, and it was a truly amazing ride, start to finish. Loved the DLC as well. Hearing the theme still gets me emotional and very sentimental.

I should really play the DLC!
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