Requires personal information to download from Huggingface. Meh. Why would I want to give them my personal data, just to be able to try the model? Then I will rather stick with other models that can be downloaded without having someone overreaching and trying to grad my info.
EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages
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#542Earlier quoted context omitted.
Arabic, even. An outlier, as it is AFAIK the only arabic dialect that is not written with the arabic alphabet. Also it's far removed from other arabic dialects.
Oh, stop it! What are you really trying to say? 'The same language' is usually just a desguised nationalistic claim. Ask yourself: what is the advantage of a language over a dialect or vice versa? Why are you fighting for it (or against it)? Linguistically, it does not matter -- there is no objective definition of the difference between a language, a dialect, or whatever -lect.
>'The same language' is usually just a desguised nationalistic claim
It's the opposite: "it's a different language" is usually just a nationalistic desire for differentiation of what are essentially dialects/variants of a language.
>Linguistically, it does not matter -- there is no objective definition of the difference between a language, a dialect, or whatever -lect.
That's more because academic linguistics, as developed in the latter half of the 20th century, had to pay lip service into several ideologies, rather than there not actually being good practical ways to discern e.g. arabic as a single basic language with different variants.
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#544Requires personal information to download from Huggingface. Meh. Why would I want to give them my personal data, just to be able to try the model? Then I will rather stick with other models that can be downloaded without having someone overreaching and trying to grad my info.
better hand them the photo of your ID, they will create pan-EU ID for you
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#545Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well I can only assume that when UK departed the EU, English wasn't removed automatically even though no country remaining in the EU nominates it as their official language of choice.
Irish and English are both official languages in the Republic of Ireland. Irish is the first official language and English being the second. https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2003/act/32/enacted/en/p...
Read the comment I replied to?
It says that each country can only request ONE language. And Ireland requested Irish.
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#547Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you can't find a common language within your own country, you shouldn't get to be one country.
Go back and tell the founding fathers of america that. Not everyone in america was english speakers.
No, but everyone in the US was made, practically and in some ways officially, to become an english speaker.
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#548Do they need this? Modern LLMs are trained on text in many languages and even if I throw medieval Gallician poetry at them[1] they can handle it.
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> Frisian is not an official language of the Netherlands to the best of my knowledge Sorry, but it is.
This is like saying German is an official language of Italy. It is officially recognized in specific bilingual provinces, not nation-wide.
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Correct. Frisia (or Fryslân) is a bilingual province. Frisian is an official language of the Netherlands. Someone called in front of a judge in the north of the Netherlands has the right to be heard in Frisian, for example. Fun fact: villages, towns, and cities in Frisia often have names which differ in Frisian and Dutch. In those cases the signs at the place limits will have both names listed; the official one on to…
I really like that the intercom announcement voice in our trains (and also buses?) is bilingual. And huh interesting, I didn't know that for some places with bilingual names, the Dutch name is official and for others the Frysian is? Who gets to decide that, the municipality?
Yep, the municipality decides on such matters. Places do still occasionally have their names changed (rarely of course, because it involves a lot of work including updating addresses), usually aligning with local use. In the case of De Westereen a name from the local dialect replaced both the Dutch and Frisian names (Zwaagwesteinde and Westerein, respectively).
In a number of cases originally Frisian names actually supplanted older Dutch names (e.g., Burgum, Grou, Eastermar, etc.), so those places have just one name in both languages (except on the Dutch language Wikipedia because of weird reasoning about allowable sources and apparently a hatred of Frisianised Dutch names).