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It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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Why have the LLMs „learned“ to write PRs (and other stuff) this way? This style was definitely not mainstream on Github (or Reddit) pre-LLMs, was it? It’s strange how AI style is so easy to spot. If LLMs just follow the style that they encountered most frequently during training, wouldn’t that mean that their style would be especially hard to spot?

You may thank millenial hipsters who used think emojis are cute and proliferation of little javascript libraries authored by them on your friendly neighborhood githubs. Later the cutest of the emojis paved their way into templates used by bots and tools, and it exploded like colorful vomit confetti all over the internets. When I see this emojiful text, my first association is not with an LLM, but with a lumberjack-be…

Beard: check

Glasses: check (I'm old)

Garish clothes: check

Segway: nope

So there's a 75% chance I am a Millenial hipster. Soy latte: sounds kinda nice

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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LLMs write things in a certain style because that's how the base models are fine tuned before being given to the public. It's not because they can't write PRs indistinguishable from humans, or can't write code without Emojis. It's because they don't want to freak out the general public so they have essentially poisoned the models to stave off regulation a little bit longer.

I doubt this. I've done AI annotation work on the big models. Part of my job was comparing two model outputs and rating which is better, and using detailed criteria to explain why it's better. The HF part. That's a lot of expensive work they're doing, and ignoring, if they're just later poisoning the models!

GP kind of implying that AGI is already there, and all companies are just dumbing them down because of regulations of the law.

I'm like "Sure buddy, sure. And the nanobots are in all vaccines, right?"

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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I would never put up a copilot PR for colleague review without fully reviewing it myself first. But once that’s done, why not?

It destroys the value of code review and wastes the reviewers time. Code review is one of the places where experience is transferred. It is disheartening to leave thoughtful comments and have them met with "I duno. I just had [AI] do it." If all you do is 'review' the output of your prompting before cutting a CR, I'd prefer you just send the prompt.

> If all you do is 'review' the output of your prompting before cutting a CR, I'd prefer you just send the prompt.

$$$ trillion dollar startup idea $$$

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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How is 0.4 kcal "not approximately zero by a long shot"? Especially when compared to a standard coke with around 150 kcal.

Well, it’s almost half a calorie, to begin with.

By the time I finish the can I'll have Burned through more than 0.4 calories.

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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> For some reason, I think people think riddling a README with emoji makes the document more inclusive. Why do you think that? I try to stay involved in accessibility community (if that's what you mean by inclusive?) and I've not heard anyone advocate for emojis over text?

It's really only anecdotal — I observed this as a popular meme between ~2015-2020. I say "meme" because I believe this is how the information spreads — I think people in that particular clique suggest it to each other and it becomes a form of in-group signalling rather than an earnest attempt to improve the accessibility of information. I'm wary now of straying into argumentum ad ignorantiam territory, but I think my…

Could you give an example of the inclusivity community? I'm not sure I understand.

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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It's really only anecdotal — I observed this as a popular meme between ~2015-2020. I say "meme" because I believe this is how the information spreads — I think people in that particular clique suggest it to each other and it becomes a form of in-group signalling rather than an earnest attempt to improve the accessibility of information. I'm wary now of straying into argumentum ad ignorantiam territory, but I think my…

Could you give an example of the inclusivity community? I'm not sure I understand.

I mean the diversity and inclusion world — people focused on social equity and representation rather than technical usability. Their work is more rooted in social theory and ethics than in empirical research.

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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Do you care if a scifi book was written by an AI or human, out of curiosity?

I'm not the OP but I've been thinking about this for a little bit since I read your question. Part of me says no, what could be more Sci-Fi than a complete and comprehensive story written by a computer. Who wouldn't want Data to have been able to and succeeded at writing a story that connects with his human compatriots? On the other hand, I also understand the concern and feeling of "something lost" when I consider a…

Very interesting!

In contrast, I think for me a tremendous part of the joy I get from reading science fiction is knowing there's another inventive human on the other side of the page. When I know what I'm reading is the result of a mechanical computation, it loses that.

But the real noodle-bender for me is would I still enjoy the book if I didn't know?

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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I do remember 1 example of an emoji in tech docs before all of this -- learning github actions (which based on my blog happened in 2021 for me, before ChatGPT release), at one point they had an apple emoji at the final stage saying "done". (I am sure there are others, I just do not remember them.) But agree excessive emoji's, tables of things, and just being overly verbose are tells for me anymore.

I do recall emoji use getting more popular in docs and – brrh – in the outputs of CLI programs already before LLMs. I’m pretty sure thst the trend originated from the JS ecosystem.

It absolutely was a trend right before LLM training started — but no way this was already the style of the majority of all tech docs and PRs ever.

The „average“ style, from the Unix manpages from the 1960s through the Linux Documentation Project all the way to the latest super-hip JavaScript isEven emoji vomit README must still have been relatively tame I assume.

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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post #522

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Why have the LLMs „learned“ to write PRs (and other stuff) this way? This style was definitely not mainstream on Github (or Reddit) pre-LLMs, was it? It’s strange how AI style is so easy to spot. If LLMs just follow the style that they encountered most frequently during training, wouldn’t that mean that their style would be especially hard to spot?

> Why have the LLMs „learned“ to write PRs (and other stuff) this way? They didn't learn how to write PRs. They "learned" how to write text. Just like generic images coming out of OpenAI have the same style and yellow tint, so does text. It averages down to a basic tiktok/threads/whatever comment. Plus whatever bias training sets and methodology introduced

That’s my whole point: Why does it seemingly „average down“ to a style that was not encountered „on average“ at the time that LLM training started?

Re: It's insulting to read AI-generated blog posts

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Here is a piece I wrote recently on that very subject. Why don't you read that to see if I'm a human writer? https://www.oranlooney.com/post/em-dash/

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That wasn't actually why I posted that I was just guessing and thought it'd be funny if I was right.
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