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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by aerostable_slug » Mon, Sep 29, 2025, 5:19 PM UTC

sdoering wrote: post #506

gms7777 wrote: post #108

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I’m currently wedding planning and regularly visit a wedding planning forum. I was left flabbergasted the other day when someone posted if it would be ok to ask guests to not post pictures of the couple on social media. They’re ok with guests posting pictures of themselves or of the venue and decor, they just don’t really want pictures of the bride and groom. The response ranged from “you can ask but you can’t preven…

Anyone finding it rude would find themselves not only on the "formerly invited and definitely not welcome" list. But also on the "good riddance, it was nice having known you once" list. People with such little respect for boundaries are just not welcome in my life.

That person might be close family, and many folks aren't as ready to go full no-contact with their mother's sister or whomever it might be.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by cindyllm » Mon, Sep 29, 2025, 5:20 PM UTC

al_borland wrote: post #499

eterm wrote: post #29

I wonder if it's a generational or cultural difference present in the comments here. I am sympathetic to the author, and I also find video a bit invasive of privacy in a way that photos aren't. I therefore find the (obviously common) attitude that videos are just "something you need to accept" quite alien, but I wonder how much of that attitude is just comments coming from a younger generation that have grown up with…

I find photos and videos to both be invasive and unwanted. I’ve been a member and gyms where the owner will start taking videos and pictures of the class that ultimately end up on social media or in marketing material. I’m not ok with it and I get incredible uncomfortable when I’m in some weird position to do an exercise and a camera starts heading my way. Any time an unwanted camera is around there is some level of…

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by aleph_minus_one » Mon, Sep 29, 2025, 5:21 PM UTC

detaro wrote: post #521

al_borland wrote: post #516

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I don’t go there anymore. The owner has been texting me on and off to try and get me to go back. I’ve been looking for other options, but am having trouble finding one that looks decent for me. It’s a bit of a paradox. When I’m looking for a gym, I find pictures incredibly helpful, but I don’t want them taken of me as a member there.

Most gyms it shouldn't be that hard to take useful pictures without people in them though? Do pictures of classes add anything?

> Most gyms it shouldn't be that hard to take useful pictures without people in them though?

Or much simpler: when the photos of a class are taken, simply ask beforehand who disagrees with being photographed and/or photos containing him/her made public, so that for those few minutes where the photos are taken, these people can get out of the picture.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by scarface_74 » Mon, Sep 29, 2025, 5:22 PM UTC

wongarsu wrote: post #497

scarface_74 wrote: post #275

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You don’t need to find nude photos of anyone anymore if you want to do revenge porn. If you have any picture of someone there are “nudity sites” for years and years ago wasn’t there an open source one that was on GitHub? (please no one reply with the name - seriously - no need to give it any publicity on HN).

Actual nudes are even worse than AI nudes. With AI nudes - the victim knows they are fake, which provides some emotional distance (similar to when actors choose to use prostetics or doubles for a nude scene: the viewer doesn't know but the actor still feels more comfortable) - most of them are bad enough that the discerning eye can spot it as an AI image (many chronically online people are scarily good at that) - the…

But most people don’t have a discerning eye. I’ve never used a nudify site. But uploading a picture of me and my wife to Grok and letting it make a 6 second video is already pretty good. On one, the only thing I noticed was that the reflection in a window wasn’t following the movement.

Also, if you down sample the quality of the video, it would be even harder to tell it was a fake.

That’s neither here nor there. Would you want even a fake nude of you online?

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by sdoering » Mon, Sep 29, 2025, 5:22 PM UTC

carlosjobim wrote: post #464

dylan604 wrote: post #301

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> Thus: A normal wedding with a normal amount of invited guests is one of the most non-secret events to exist private !== secret You seem to have this concept crossed in your thinking. Just because people know about it doesn't make it not private. Try getting into an event at Davos. Try getting into any well known event without an invitation. You'll see just how not public they are. The fact that people think it is a…

> Just because people know about it doesn't make it not private. That's exactly what I adressed in my comment above. You're explaining to me exactly what I've explained to you. Public can mean something which has been publicized = made known to the general public. In this case it doesn't mean that everybody is invited. You have a very hostile tone, for no apparent reason. Feel free to blow off steam if you need to, b…

If you only had made the argument you thought you made, but didn’t. And then not even made the effort to understand that the point your discussion partner made was actually in stark contrast to your point in the result they were arguing for.

You ended with:

> Asking for no photos is like participating in a big sports event as an athlete and demanding nobody takes photos.

A private, invite only, wedding isn’t comparable to a sports event that you described. Because this is by definition public. Why? Because anyone can buy a ticket to that event. That makes it open to the public. Yes, you need a ticket to enter. But it’s not invite only.

Imagine a big baseball/football/soccer event. The stadium is packed. Anybody can film to their liking. This is the public part. Now imagine the owners box way at the top. Not one of these humans down in the regular seats will be able to get up there. It’s invite only. That makes it private. Even if there are many people in that box.

But the owner (or in case of the wedding the couple getting married) chose who Would be allowed to partake in that event. And so, they also get to make the rules.

If you, with your attitude would be at a private event I was hosting, you wouldn’t be there long. Because you still need to learn the difference between public (in theory anybody can attend and the host doesn’t get to choose) and private (only the host chooses who can attend).

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by w10-1 » Mon, Sep 29, 2025, 5:23 PM UTC

So sue. Don't expect legislators or online legions to protect you. Sue to protect others in the same situation.

The common-law tort of invasion of privacy grows to encompass new situations only through court cases.

Courts (i.e., judges) are not looking to create rules out of thin air, but look to reflect when expectations have changed in a way that tracks the principles behind the tort.

In this case, an initial historical period of permitting publication by default can be followed by a restrictive period of prohibiting invasions, based on the recognizing dangers from publication, e.g., permanent and lasting damage to one's business relationships through disclosing of embarrassing but irrelevant images.

To make law you have to get out of the realm of personal feelings and start expressing principles for the way people should live together.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by lippihom » Mon, Sep 29, 2025, 5:24 PM UTC

lbrito wrote: post #538

This behaviour is a thousandfold worse when you have kids, especially at social gatherings like birthday parties. Other parents (at least in my age cohort) assume it is OK to film them and post it to whatever social media they have without even asking.

Here in Germany we are about to start our daughter in pre-school ("kita") and every single parent had to fill out a few forms explicitly stating if they were ok or not ok with having photos or videos taken of their child (both by staff and by other parents).

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by ghaff » Mon, Sep 29, 2025, 5:27 PM UTC

Applejinx wrote: post #240

eterm wrote: post #29

I wonder if it's a generational or cultural difference present in the comments here. I am sympathetic to the author, and I also find video a bit invasive of privacy in a way that photos aren't. I therefore find the (obviously common) attitude that videos are just "something you need to accept" quite alien, but I wonder how much of that attitude is just comments coming from a younger generation that have grown up with…

I'm a youtuber to support my programming project, and I see many people in my situation being a lot more shy about doing that. It's a lot of work to do it properly and takes dedicated attention to not have your parasocial community turn sour or vicious on you: it's no joke. I wonder how much of this is people expecting that ANY media presence will throw them into the troubles people experience when they have all the…

From a professional perspective, I never worried much and I'm pretty sure it helped me. But I totally understand if there were/are people who are very concerned about putting themselves "out there" when there is at least a remote possibility of some offhand remark or paragraph costing them their job.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by carlosjobim » Mon, Sep 29, 2025, 5:27 PM UTC

GJim wrote: post #353

carlosjobim wrote: post #311

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> Those include not trying to impress strange rules on guests you invite to an event. I think you will find it is both good etiquette and very common to make polite requests ("rules") of guests you invite..... whether these be to 'bring a bottle', 'smoke outside', 'wear black tie', 'wear your birthday suit' or 'don't film us'. If you can't accommodate such requests, don't go.

One of those is different from the others. And yes, it's very common for people to not go to an event if the hosts are making up strange demands.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by hermannj314 » Mon, Sep 29, 2025, 5:27 PM UTC

wang_li wrote: post #403

hermannj314 wrote: post #220

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The idea of public and private needs a similar distinction like libel and defamation. Ephemeral public has no expectation of ephemeral privacy, but me walking down a street with a handful of people on it should not lead me to expect that being recorded and having it broadcast to the entire human race, permanently, for eternity.

>...but me walking down a street with a handful of people on it should not lead me to expect... You shouldn't have an expectation either way. If anything, the expectation that you will not be recorded is more of a violation of the social contract that the reverse. It's a public space that can be used for many purposes. If the effect on bystanders is minimal then attempting to exclude an activity is wrong. Can we say…

To be clear, I am talking about a hypothetical ought-to-be and not specifically discussing the current law anywhere.

I hear you and I agree public spaces involve us working and coexisting together, not tailoring the public space to what one person wants.

On the other hand, there is something in me that doesn't like for-profit rage bait creators monetizing how I react to a guy shoving a camera in my face and doing something irregular. I feel like it is a type of assault we don't have a name for yet but that should conceivably be criminal.

I just realize that I'm acting like the those that first saw the printed word or a camera and felt uneasy about it, I am just an old man angry that video cameras and globalization of content exists. I'm probably just a luddite trying to stop the world from progressing.