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Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Post by arn7av »

nrmitchi wrote: post #535
arn7av wrote: post #518

Update from USCIS: https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/memos/H1B... "Clarification" from Press Secretary: https://x.com/PressSec/status/1969495900478488745 1.) This is NOT an annual fee. It’s a one-time fee that applies only to the petition. 2.) Those who already hold H-1B visas and are currently outside of the country right now will NOT be charged $100,000 to re-enter. H-1B visa holders can leave and…

A "White House Official" may be saying this now, but it is not what was in the EO that was actually signed. There were no exclusions for current holders, and the start date was explicitly September 21, 2025 (a date that does apply to the "next lottery"). They are more than welcome to roll back this asinine decision, but pretending that everyone else is just mis-interpreting is gaslighting. Either way, until there is…

I agree with the first part, but for the second, this is not an unnamed WH source, it is the Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt

Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Post by pinkmuffinere »

wussboy wrote: post #447
pinkmuffinere wrote: post #350

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Surely the poster is allowed to be Republican and an immigrant? They didn't even say they voted for Trump. Eg, if they're fiscally conservative and strongly anti-abortion, they may find that they are best aligned with the Republican party, despite being an immigrant.

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I think I agree with your political views, and that makes me sad. It would be easier to believe in "my" party if this sort of stupidity wasn't so blatant.

Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Post by [deleted] »

nujabe wrote: post #375
sega_sai wrote: post #317

I am so glad I left the States. It is horrible to live in a country where on a whim of a deranged leader your whole life can be upended. No country is perfect, but the way US now behaves towards people on visas is not tolerable. (And it was similar situation during COVID)

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Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Post by nrmitchi »

arn7av wrote: post #541
nrmitchi wrote: post #535

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A "White House Official" may be saying this now, but it is not what was in the EO that was actually signed. There were no exclusions for current holders, and the start date was explicitly September 21, 2025 (a date that does apply to the "next lottery"). They are more than welcome to roll back this asinine decision, but pretending that everyone else is just mis-interpreting is gaslighting. Either way, until there is…

I agree with the first part, but for the second, this is not an unnamed WH source, it is the Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt

I was not aware that she had made this statement as well. All previous reporting from this morning seemed to report back to a Business Insider article that cited only an "unamed White House official who has been granted anonymity to speak on the issue". I missed that it was a reference to a tweet from her specifically (as opposed to one of the countless other accounts copy/pasting this everywhere).

Note that Leavitt's words are any more enforceable though.

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Post by Detrytus »

Muromec wrote: post #62
stronglikedan wrote: post #45

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Life quality wise West Europe is still the best place on this planet.

I think you meant to say Eastern Europe. Western countries such as France, Sweden or Germany went through quick enshittification process thanks to uncontrolled immigration.

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Post by Jnr »

someperson wrote: post #218
rich_sasha wrote: post #169

UK around Brexit time thought kind of similar: let's keep the "riffraff" immigrants out by applying higher criteria. The narrative also changed this way: we don't want immigrants in general, but you , with your highly paid PhD-requiring job, you can go in, on a 2 year rolling basis. Then everyone's a winner, except for unwanted, unskilled labour. But a lot of skilled labour left anyway. Partly because the general atm…

> you can be pretty sure your retired parents won't, if ever you need them to move in with you The immigration system should be designed to block retired parents from moving country to live with their working age adult children who have migrated. One reason to have immigration is to improve a country's dependency ratio: the ratio of working age population to children and retirees. The ideal immigrants are young well-…

Having non-working grand parents that can help with watching kids is a nice way to ensure you actually get more kids in the first place. No sane parents will make lots of babies if there is no one who can help them with babysitting. And no, just kindergarten is not sufficient.

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Post by supertrope »

koolba wrote: post #539
supertrope wrote: post #473

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The President’s very first speech as a candidate denigrated Mexicans. Xenophobia is his signature issue even more so than tax cuts. 62 million Americans approved this platform in 2016 outvoting 65 million Americans who chose the other candidate.

77M chose his platform in 2024, and that’s after seeing him govern for four years, and talk for four years more after that. America knows what it wanted and it got it.

Yes. As The NY Times phrased it, 2024 proved 2016 was not a fluke.

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Post by deadbabe »

ztwye wrote: post #532
deadbabe wrote: post #295

A reminder that just because we may feel sorry for these H1B people caught up in this administration’s shenanigans, it does not mean we have to be overly supportive of the H1B program in general. If it ends, it ends. There’s plenty of American CS graduates desperate for jobs here at home too. Tired of hearing stories about people who have been unable to land any kind of CS job due to low hiring and AI making them irr…

Might as well kick every single foreigner out of this country to let Americans find jobs. Of course us foreigners take it personally... Are you serious? How is this understandable?

How should the American workers who constantly get passed over in favor for H1Bs take it?

Americans got so obsessed with being a “nation of immigrants” they elevated actual immigrants to higher status than American citizens themselves.

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Post by hvb2 »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #105
jacquesm wrote: post #27

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The democracy stopped functioning a while ago, this is just the bills being presented.

Unless you mean the electoral college overriding popular vote nonsense, and disproportionate Senate power, which was there since the beginning, I don't know what you mean. The voters apparently wanted more of this per the Nov 2024 elections, when we still had a credible election process.

I don't believe the average American cares about the concerns raised in this thread. Most of them don't have the slightest understanding of how their immigration system works.

I do think that no one would accept this kind of mismanagement if it were to affect them.

Let's say by executive order they make tax day Feb 1st on January 30th. And everyone who's late will pay a hefty fine. See how that would go....

This is no way to make policy, no matter the form of government

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