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Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by paulddraper »

kube-system wrote: post #127
palata wrote: post #91

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I agree with your points, except this: > thanks to the Steam Deck [...] but I would be reluctant to call that Linux Desktop anymore than I would call Android an uptick for Linux. The Steam Deck very much runs Linux Desktop. Android runs the Linux kernel, but everything else is different. SteamOS is a Linux distribution based on Arch. If you run your Steam Deck in "desktop mode", it is very much a Linux Desktop (with…

> The Steam Deck very much runs Linux Desktop. Android runs the Linux kernel, but everything else is different. Linux is a kernel.

So anyone saying "the Windows operating system" is doing wrong?

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by palata »

fragmede wrote: post #425
palata wrote: post #304

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If someone runs Linux Desktop without caring that it is Linux, it still means that they use software that runs on Linux. Say if governments move to some Linux distro, they will need an office suite, and they may pay for its development. If someone runs SteamOS, it means that they play games on Linux. So it becomes interesting for game devs to test for Linux. And then if someone runs SteamOS, instead of a dual boot wi…

The alternative to Microsoft Word isn't LibreOffice Writer, it's Google Docs, which is very much controlled by a big tech company.

If a government chooses to move away from Microsoft, I hope it's not to get closer to Google.

And there are alternatives other than LibreOffice and Google Docs.

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by Lord-Jobo »

brabel wrote: post #349
redeeman wrote: post #93

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kinda like when people write to eachother, just open up your whatsapp, and type in a magic spell to let your friends know they are invited to dinner tonight..

With the difference that if you get a single character wrong you will get an error that might as well be written in Greek.

Or if you get a single character writing you brick the system (happened to me, in bazzite no less!)

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by sexy_seedbox »

kovac wrote: post #222
osigurdson wrote: post #143

After installing Arch / Gnome on my laptop last week, I can see why. Everything works completely fine and feels 3X faster than Windows 11. I have Linux on my desktop machine but always hesitated for laptops due to past bad experiences with power management (i.e. something always eventually went wrong when closing the lid). So far, all of that is working perfectly.

Windows 11 is exceptionally slow. I installed it on a ThinkPad Carbon X1, it was quite unusable. Unresponsive after starting up, copilot and O365 trying to run stuff and i had to wait for them to comolete. I was very surprised that they think this is acceptable. I spent about an hour going through processes and installed programs list, and uninstalling many things. At that point it was more tolerable.

You pretty much need Windhawk to fix and remove all of Windows 11's poor design and architecture.

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by const_cast »

MostlyStable wrote: post #325
IsTom wrote: post #234

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Steam Deck has (accessible in menu by default) desktop mode that is just KDE with desktop icons and everything.

I don't think his point was that it's not linux but rather that it's not a desktop, and if it counts as a desktop, then so do the rest of the gaming consoles runnining non-linux, which probably didn't get counted so the 5% would be lower.

The other consoles don't have the same capabilities. They don't have a desktop, so they're not a desktop. SteamOS has a desktop, and it's one of the most popular Linux desktops, KDE. So, it's a desktop operating system.

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by const_cast »

Our_Benefactors wrote: post #369
happymellon wrote: post #324

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By picking a standard menu option I can go to a traditional desktop and use Libre Office and Firefox. Can I so that with a Switch? I can plug in a USB dock, with a monitor, mouse and keyboard and edit images with GIMP. Can I do that with a PS5? If I like the Steam Deck UI, I can install a package on my desktop and pick it on login, thus gaining basically all of this functionality. I in fact do have the SteamOS 3 UI i…

> Can I do that with a Switch? You can install Ubuntu on a Nintendo switch by using a paperclip so yes. https://www.reddit.com/r/SwitchHacks/comments/8f0ugz/hardwar...

But that's not the same operating system. I would need to install a different operating system. So the Switch does not have a Linux Operating System - you can just install one.

If that's the metric, then Linux desktop use must be close to 100%. Almost every platform can install some Linux distro.

But SteamOS IS a Linux distro.

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by const_cast »

scarface_74 wrote: post #327
jabroni_salad wrote: post #309

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(US minnesota) recently a 23 year old new hire advised me that he doesn't have a normal computer or laptop and he buys plane tickets, files his taxes, plans projects etc on a phone or ipad. Thinking that some tasks are better suited to a desk / 2 monitors is apparently a millennial thing now .

I had my first personal computer in 1986. But I can easily do all of those things just as conveniently on my phone. 90% of tax payers claim the standard deduction. That means filing your taxes just means going to Turbo tax and it importing your W2’s automatically if your employer uses one of the major payment providers like ADP or worse case taking a picture of your W2, clicking “Next” a few times after answering a f…

> But I can easily do all of those things just as conveniently on my phone.

Well no, the UI on a phone is severely dumbed down because it has to work with a smaller screen and touch input. You can do the same stuff, sometimes, but with more effort.

Like, I could program on my phone, if I wanted. But that would suck major ass. It has the same capabilities, but certainly nowhere near the convenience. Even just running two things at once. It's... possible... on an iPhone. But it's not a desktop with split screen. And, if it can do split screen, I really have to squint, right?

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by const_cast »

nancyminusone wrote: post #462
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #227

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How do you write long school papers on the phone's tiny screen and keyboard?

With your thumbs

Right, slowly and painfully, with a lot of mistakes. Mouse and keyboard is still, by far, the most efficient input method into a computer.

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by mathiaspoint »

const_cast wrote: post #548
scarface_74 wrote: post #327

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I had my first personal computer in 1986. But I can easily do all of those things just as conveniently on my phone. 90% of tax payers claim the standard deduction. That means filing your taxes just means going to Turbo tax and it importing your W2’s automatically if your employer uses one of the major payment providers like ADP or worse case taking a picture of your W2, clicking “Next” a few times after answering a f…

> But I can easily do all of those things just as conveniently on my phone. Well no, the UI on a phone is severely dumbed down because it has to work with a smaller screen and touch input. You can do the same stuff, sometimes, but with more effort. Like, I could program on my phone, if I wanted. But that would suck major ass. It has the same capabilities, but certainly nowhere near the convenience. Even just running…

Programming on a phone is actually pretty amazing if you can run a good overlapping window manager and an OS that won't randomly kill background tasks. I had a phone running Linux for a while and it was great I wrote a ton of unit tests for my side projects on it while taking the train. One time I was out and ran into some UI issue and fixed it right there on the bus. There's nothing like that now and everything that's available is so bad no one even understands what they're missing.
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