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Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule
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Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule
#542Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule
#543I'm not sure even Tesla unambiguously qualifies here. Looking at the NHTSA part 583 list for 2025 [0], none of the Tesla vehicles have a "US" content higher than 75% (which I think includes Canada?). The highest is the base Kia EV6 at 80%. This seems to be coming from the Kogod manufacturing index. That's a more qualitative ranking that attempts to deal with things like corporate structures rather than just origin li…
My immediate assumption was that Tesla lies and probably has more offshore content than most of their competitors.
That's a strange assumption to make. Most other auto OEMs are basically just final assembly plants with parts shipped in from everywhere. Tesla makes way more parts farther down their supply chain directly in their own factories. Ford, GM and the rest for example aren't designing and populating their own circuit boards.
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#544Not going to change the buying market. A lot of people will never buy a Tesla. There are options, with more choices coming next year.
> Not going to change the buying market.
Price changes absolutely change the buying market. What a weird thing to say. A lot of people will never buy a Tesla, a lot still will (they delivered 300k+ vehicles in Q1). The ones who still will buy will also consider the price.
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#545Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's pure speculation, but quite possible. Corruption is nothing new in Washington. The real question is whether people support bringing auto manufacturing back to America. As always, people who like the policy/candidate/official will overlook the corruption, while people who dislike the policy/candidate/official complain about it. The people who demanded evidence about Biden will accept speculation about Trump, ju…
American Manufacturing never left. Total goods manufactured in the US peaked in 2018 and 2019. It dropped during covid but has returned to those levels now. Of course manufacturing jobs left. Replaced by automation. A much smaller number of people are making things. Americans have moved on to Services jobs (many of which are poorly paid) and Knowledge Worker jobs (many of which are highly paid.) Even industries that…
> ...replaced by automation. A much smaller number of people are making things.
Some manufacturing was replaced by automation, but most of it was not. The jobs still exist, just not in the US. Worldwide, a much larger number of people are making things.
In China, manufacturing jobs account for 29% of total employment, according to UN data reported by Our World in Data.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/manufacturing-share-of-to...
I had to use that source because China is hiding data now and the original source at the UN no longer lists any data for China.
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-economy-data-youth-une...
Nonetheless, the UN still reports that many countries have more manufacturing jobs (relative to total employment) than the US. China, if 29% is correct, has the most, but almost all European nations also have more than the US.
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#546Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Such hyperbole is dangerous at best when people take it seriously. The same is true about the sitting president and some of his staunch supporters repeatedly "joking" about, and alluding to a third term[1][2][3][4] - including merch[5]. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-third-te... [2] https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5104133-rep-andy-ogles-pr... [3] https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-t…
It's bait. They want you sounding hysterical and spending your time talking about things not on their agenda.
That's what everyone told me about project 2025 too.
Plus I thought one of trump's things was "no more BS". Is that not a thing anymore?
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#547Flagging this for the highly misleading headline. It makes it sound as if Tesla is getting some kind of carve out which is the furthest thing from the truth.
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Nonsense. Does anyone seriously think the military is going to defy SCOTUS at the end of the four years? Does anyone seriously think Jan 6th, bad as it was, was going to end the republic[0]? Such hyperbole is dangerous at best when people take it seriously. [0] Especially because what it tells our enemies. Iran, take out just this one specific building, and America is done for!
> Does anyone seriously think Jan 6th, bad as it was, was going to end the republic?
Literally everyone sat in fear for our republic that day as we watched that happened. What were you doing?
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#549Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Singaporean government's hand in it's own economy is larger than a lot of self-professed communist states - Temasek Holdings, Mediacorp, DBS Bank, Singapore Airlines etc etc.
I never understood why libertarians/free market proponents think that Singapore is the paragon of laissez-faire economics. Try studying the country's housing market policies, for example, and you'll quickly realise that the government is extremely interventionist. The difference is between Singaporean policymakers/civil servants and their counterparts from elsewhere is that the former are actually world-class in term…
While they are interventionist in some way, so is everybody else. The US government involvement in housing is gigantic as well.
We can learn a lot from the policies, both free market and otherwise. And we shouldn't learn from others.
No free market person thinks of Singapore as some prefect example. As that doesn't exist. So you have to take example from different places. And Singapore has more good examples then most.
Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule
#550The vast majority of their battery cells are made in China and Japan so im not sure how they even qualify. Oh yeah, corruption.
They can qualify because unlike most automakers they do actually have significant investment in their own battery supply-chain.