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Pentagon to terminate $5.1B in IT contracts with Accenture, Deloitte

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Re: Pentagon to terminate $5.1B in IT contracts with Accenture, Deloitte

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Post by rayiner »

QuantumGood wrote: post #244
tw04 wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ONLY time this occurs in the private sector is when corporate raiders are trying to extract every last penny from a business they plan on killing. Unsurprisingly this follows directly with project 2025s goal of dismantling the federal government and privatizing what departments aren’t filled with party loyalists at the expense of the average US citizen.

96 of 301 projects complete, 58 in progress • https://www.project2025.observer/

Promises made, promises kept.

Re: Pentagon to terminate $5.1B in IT contracts with Accenture, Deloitte

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Post by mattmanser »

patcon wrote: post #233
callamdelaney wrote: post #64

Now the UK should swiftly follow suit in sacking these cowboys. The taxpayer is being charged extortionate rates in some cases for fresh graduates who know effectively nothing at all about what they talk about. At the same time, we should increase salary banding for technical roles to the market rate. We will get the experience we need for much, much less.

> for fresh graduates who know effectively nothing at all about what they talk about Assuming they are akin to grad students, these "fresh graduates" likely have more intersectional knowledge than long-time deep domain experts. I've worked in grant funding landscape, and one of the biggest challenges is that: 1. Experts have deep knowledge, but don't keep up outside their field, and yet have the most power in distrib…

It's pretty clear you've never met any of these graduates.

I had a bunch of friends at uni who went into these roles, from a range of degrees.

They do not have that capacity, they know nothing about the real world, and they brought no insights.

And later in life, they will openly tell you that. That they knew nothing, we're a complete waste of everyone's time if involved in real work, but most often were being charged out at ridiculous figures to sit in a room and photocopy stuff that didn't need photocopying. Because that was chargeable.

Re: Pentagon to terminate $5.1B in IT contracts with Accenture, Deloitte

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Post by keybored »

aantix wrote: post #129
callamdelaney wrote: post #64

Now the UK should swiftly follow suit in sacking these cowboys. The taxpayer is being charged extortionate rates in some cases for fresh graduates who know effectively nothing at all about what they talk about. At the same time, we should increase salary banding for technical roles to the market rate. We will get the experience we need for much, much less.

Salary banding doesn’t attract the talent you need. Maybe, good enough? E.g. Who would contribute to open source, speak at conferences, write blog articles, go above and beyond to outwardly contribute, only to be grouped with others to make the same? Terrible deal.

This site has this weird streak where you have people talking about making things for the sake of making them, people talking about hustling and making money—and these events are discrete. Then you have the third event where people on behalf of some group step in and say that people who make whatever and “go above and beyond” would never, ever do what they are doing if something even slightly more egalitarian than whatever the status quo represents would have been implemented.

Re: Pentagon to terminate $5.1B in IT contracts with Accenture, Deloitte

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Post by gscott »

exe34 wrote: post #452
idrios wrote: post #435

Anecdotally, a friend of mine works for a state department of transportation and has been trying to get a developer and a DBA to replace some people who've recently left. He's been having an insanely hard time finding anyone for the role, and not because of salary requirements. He's required to vet candidates through approved sources and so his department uses a recruitment firm that keeps sending him resumes from pe…

he should just hire some high school script kiddies, they already have access to the highest level of government!

Put in that persons first name as 'Big' last name 'Balls'. No one will question the hire, change the persons name later to their actual name.

Re: Pentagon to terminate $5.1B in IT contracts with Accenture, Deloitte

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Post by VirusNewbie »

mywittyname wrote: post #531
Aurornis wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The internet comment section “pick a side and deride the other” doesn’t work on these situations. Two things can be bad at once. The IT consulting can be too expensive. Cutting it all at once with no other plan can have disastrous consequences. Rash moves like this are things politicians and corporate ladder climbers alike love to do, but then they run far away from the consequences. They know they can convince enoug…

> This very well could become more expensive to cancel abruptly when you consider the second and third order effects. That's the goal. The whole conservative ideology for the past 40 years has been to make the government inefficient so it can complain about government inefficiencies. What we are seeing is the end game of this idea - turn the government itself into an gigantic inefficient corporation designed to sipho…

> The whole conservative ideology for the past 40 years has been to make the government inefficient so it can complain about government inefficiencies.

People say things like this, but then have trouble explaining California, where the left has had a supermajority for almost as long.

Re: Pentagon to terminate $5.1B in IT contracts with Accenture, Deloitte

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Post by sjsdaiuasgdia »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #484
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #341

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not attempting to justify all military spending by the US, and have no desire to do so. I am not one to quote Smedley. I am saying that support for Ukraine is pretty different from the kinds of behaviors that make people say "the USA shouldn't be the world police!"

> I am not one to quote Smedley. Then why are you arguing with me? I was pointing out the contradiction of people who do that. I feel like you think I'm saying the US shouldn't support Ukraine. I'm all on board with the US supporting Ukraine. I'm saying the US needs a powerful military if you want it to support Ukraine, which is at odds with people who are fully behind the quotes that come from Butler and Eisenhower'…

I don't like it when unlike things are treated as being the same, hence my reply.

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Post by EFreethought »

myvoiceismypass wrote: post #71
splitrocket wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will not be announced. Fun fact: the current Republican administration was pushing a budget that substantially increased the federal deficit. The one that was finally approved is still a massive budget deficit increase. Obama reduced the deficit by nearly half during his presidency, the current FY2025 budget has authorized a $1.9 trillion deficit (6.2% of GDP), with reconciliation instructions potentially allowing…

Pretty frustrating to be nearly 50 and this is literally the exact playbook over the last half century. Reagan / Bush / Trump - 20 years of absolute shit policy (and results) when it comes to the deficit that everyone cares about.

> when it comes to the deficit that everyone cares about.

The GOP only cares about it when the POTUS is a Democrat.

Re: Pentagon to terminate $5.1B in IT contracts with Accenture, Deloitte

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Post by keybored »

ibejoeb wrote: post #21

Kinda amusing that the general sentiment so far, in a forum filled with technology expertise, is that there is certainly waste in these budgets. But, when discussing the overall trend of cutting programs in other fields where the majority doesn't have that expertise, the conclusion is the opposite.

Amusing that a newly minted federal department of tech-bro adjacent yahoos declares that there is waste but clearly does not have any of the expertise—which would probably need to be wide-ranging—to be able to actually get rid of the waste itself and not just cut indescriminately.

You could get an oncologist to admit that the patient had some cells that needed to be removed, due to the advanced cancer. But the layman chose to get rid of a couple of perfectly healthy, cancer-free limbs.

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Post by econ »

fallingknife wrote: post #530
PeterStuer wrote: post #394

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to understand consultancies in IT are just brokers. They buy in "inventory" of "profiles" at as low a cost as possible, and sell that inventory to their customers for as much as possible. So you've got your CS graduate which you recruit and pay $40/hr, slap a badge on them and rent them out for $120/hr. Once in a while you fall short and need to hire some freelancers for $60/hr. That's it. As your gov agency…

Sounds like the richest and most powerful organization on Earth should start paying market salaries for its engineers. Not sure why that is so difficult.

Just work as hard as the pay Merritts. Works for me. Around 5 you get presence, at 100 you get superhuman performance.
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