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1. The data absolutely does not show that midwestern tradesmen are wealthier than Bay Area engineers. 2. I agree that unions are useful, and you’re starting to see them (eg Alphabet Workers Union). There is definitely opportunity here. 3. I think your visions of non-grandeur are blinding you to the possibilities that others live life and advocate for themselves differently, without it being wrong. Sometimes change is…
The data does show that if you look at what cost of living is buying you in the midwest versus the bay. New construction large homes on large lots are in reach. Multiple vehicles are in reach. Everything is in reach after that. I'm sorry but the housing stock in the bay is just poor quality for what it is. The lots are tiny barely larger than the home. The home is small. The bedrooms are small. Most you can do is tea…
But that is blatantly not wealth? For a topic so humorously numerical, this entire comment is decided not.
> You want actual property, with some setbacking from your neigbors
First, not everyone wants these things, and even quality-of-life is not one size fits all. Second, this is also not what wealth is.
> You could have an indoor pool in a detached building. You could keep horses. You could have a 6 car garage. All the upgrades from the builder too. All for a song in comparison to a home a fraction of all that in the bay.
Uh, duh the midwest is cheaper than the most economically productive region in human history. Thanks for explaining.
As an ex-Cleveland resident who now lives in San Francisco, I can confidently say that these trappings are not available to most midwesterners nor Californians; neither tradesmen not high skill workers; and its also still not wealth, although it is certainly more closely correlated.
Anecdotally, you couldn't pay me to own a horse, nor do I even have use for my single car - owning 6 seems like a waste when on-demand self-driving vehicles will shuttle me effortlessly around San Francisco.
> I don't think "the data" you might cite are considering all of these factors of the lived experience
Because that's not what the words in this conversation mean.
> Maybe one or two economic indicators
That's what these it means. And they're not in the favor of a tradesman in the midwest.
> not how life actually plays out with even the half dozen or so things I've laid out above.
But what you laid out (quite condescendingly btw) is farcically not the meaning of wealth, and not the indicators of a good quality of life. I can name a long list of things that the midwest can't provide to the wealthy that are readily available to working class people in California (eg. an extra 100 days of sunlight a year). But I won't because it's obvious and not the definition of wealth.