Does no one remember the last Google Gemini super-impressive demo that blew everyone away was faked? https://techcrunch.com/2023/12/07/googles-best-gemini-demo-w...
I view these demos with a heaping cup of salt.
Gemini Robotics
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Re: Gemini Robotics
#542Relevant (upcoming) book, "AI for Robotics: Toward Embodied and General Intelligence in the Physical World" from one of the authors of RT-1 (Robotic Transformer) from Google DeepMind Robotics group: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DFLTZ4SQ?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_...
I have not read it yet (it's being released in May), so can't give a true recommendation, but I did preorder it. The state of art is changing fast, and the book is expected to capture at least some snapshot of it.
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Project Hail Mary - Andy Weir The sun is dying. A capable team is assembled and put into cryosleep in an automated ship for a journey to a neighboring star system to try to diagnose the problem. Only one member survives, and they have amnesia. The novel does a great job of explaining the process of troubleshooting under pressure and with incomplete information.
I love this book almost as much as The Martian but I don't think it fits OP's need? The tech in PHM isn't much advanced from today.
That's fair, the medical bot was about as competent as today's tech.
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It was weird to actually read I, Robot and discover that the entire book is a collection of short stories about those laws going wrong. Far as I know, Asimov never actually told a story where those laws were a good thing.
Well, "everything worked out according to plan and nobody got hurt" doesn't make for a very interesting story ;)
Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, A tale of a fateful trip
That started from this tropic port. Aboard this tiny ship. They got lost but they called for help, and now they're totally fine. And now they're totally fine.
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#545If this makes it easier and faster to sort garbage, we could probably improve the efficiency of recycling 100x. I know there are some places that do that already, but there are so many menial tasks that could be done by robots to improve the world.
I'm still waiting for the clothes-folding robot.
Physical intelligence has a robot that can fold clothes
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Yeah, maybe someone with more industry knowledge can give a better picture, but I have a hard time seeing how these robots would fit into and improve existing processes [0]. Garbage is mechanically sorted most of the way already; then IR is used to identify different plastics and air blasts are used to separate them out at dozens per second. The Gemini robot tech is cool as heck, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't se…
I dont see why a Gemini robot couldn't grab 20 dark clothing items from a hamper, put them in the laundry machine, wait an hour, take them out and put them in the dryer while I was at work (thanks return to office)
Maybe it could. But it won’t any time soon because it’d cost far more than you would pay for that service.
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Waymo seems to be a counter example here
Waymo took 15 years and $30B to develop and is still unprofitable. By the time they make their money back it'll probably be too late.
They’ll never make their money back. Autonomous driving is mostly software and will be commoditized very shortly after it works well.
There’s not enough money paid to drivers in the world today to repay the investment in autonomous driving from direct revenues. It’ll be an expected feature of most cars, and priced at epsilon.
Autonomous driving and the attendant safety improvements will turn out to be a gift to the world paid for by Google ad revenue, startup investors, and later, auto companies.
Re: Gemini Robotics
#548The problem with Google is that their ad business brings so much revenue that no other product makes sense. They will use whatever they learn with robots to raise their ad revenue, somehow.
The problem with HN is people with little expertise in an area confidently claim things that are woefully wrong
That actually doesn’t counter the argument
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#549The problem with Google is that their ad business brings so much revenue that no other product makes sense. They will use whatever they learn with robots to raise their ad revenue, somehow.
I worked there briefly. This was my enduring impression. Met some incredibly smart people, but so much of it was weird and seemingly pointless.
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It's not just researchers. Engineers at Google get to spin up products and throw spaghetti at walls, too. This might have been true 10-15 years ago. I assure you it is not the case today.
Yup, it still is. Maybe it was more prevalent or expected 15 years ago, but it still happens all the time today.
Google is not a monolith, both can be true.