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Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by drawkward »

lmm wrote: post #522
derbOac wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally think it says volumes about how those in the Trump-Musk group (Musk group?) see this. They see the task as infiltrating an adversary, requiring someone with the technical skills to do so but who is also disposable. This in their mind is not about improving anything in the government for citizens, or with regard to US interests, it's about gaining access to a hostile entity without regard to their interes…

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DOGE is the deep state: unelected, unaccountable, unconstitutional. President Trusk does not care at all about anything but enriching and empowering himself.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by drawkward »

9283409232 wrote: post #106

The question no one asking is why Elon is sending a team of teenage programmers and not a team of financial auditors if he really wanted to cut government spending?

Roughly half of the commenters on relevant HN forums are asking exactly that.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by jarsin »

throwxy1123 wrote: post #534
I_am_tiberius wrote: post #510

I find it shockingly absurd how the All-In podcast hosts blindly support everything one of their own does. It’s obvious they treat Musk like a god. In the latest episode, they even made fun of concerns about privacy, claiming that all people care about is the state not wasting money. - completely dismissing worries about data exposure.

They were good in the opposition to Biden, now they have lost all credibility. They were sympathetic to the Greenland and other annexation plans. Chamath appeared on Tucker Carlson, garnered sympathy with various sob stories but then gently pushed his agenda to the MAGA crowd. No wonder Musk wants to deregulate everything. Regulation interferes with the telemedicine, gut bacteria powders and various other nonsense th…

I'm amazed that the "Spac King" is not part of the administration.

I watched Chamath call in live to a spac scammers live stream. This scammer drove a beater and would pump various spac warrants on his way home from the warehouse job on twitch.

I was like wtf is a former FB executive doing showing up on this scammer live stream.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

ineptech wrote: post #94
fabian2k wrote: post #47

Ignoring the horrifying political parts, I think one aspect here about data access that is inherently worrying is that it seems like all usual controls were bypassed and the DOGE people had very low level access to systems. So there are probably copies of sensitive data now in their possession, and nobody knows exactly what was copied and where it is stored. This kind of access would be dangerous even in the hands of…

What's more worrying is whether the access can realistically be revoked. As a general rule, when a security even rises to the level of root access to internal systems, you don't even try to remove them - you just rebuild the affected VMs from scratch because it's the only way to be sure the attacker didn't leave anything behind. For the systems we're talking about, payment processing stuff at Treasury and Social Secu…

The VMs? You're imagining that the Federal payment systems run in VMs? This is not some web stack thing. It's not some Linux system shenanigans.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by gyudin »

impulser_ wrote: post #499
culi wrote: post #454

> the DOGE teen is a former denizen of ‘The Com,’ an archipelago of Discord and Telegram chat channels that function as a kind of distributed cybercriminal social network for facilitating instant collaboration To be honest, this is my first time hearing about The Com. Does anyone have any more reading on this? You'd think they'd use something more secure than Discord (which has 0 encryption) and Telegram which doesn'…

The Com is just a general term for crime communities on the Internet. Its not a specific group. The Com includes groups that commit crimes stretching from cybercrime to literally the worst crimes you can think of and the vast majority of this is done on Discord and Telegram. You can go down a really dark rabbit hole if you really dig deep into some of these groups within The Com. This is where the worst of the worst…

It is not. You could literally spend 1 minute googling to check that the only mentions of it point to the same website.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by mvf4z7 »

I_am_tiberius wrote: post #510

I find it shockingly absurd how the All-In podcast hosts blindly support everything one of their own does. It’s obvious they treat Musk like a god. In the latest episode, they even made fun of concerns about privacy, claiming that all people care about is the state not wasting money. - completely dismissing worries about data exposure.

Could not agree more. The All In guys stopped engaging in thought provoking and critical conversations a long time ago. And holy hell, Jason Calacanis is the biggest weasel on the podcast. At least the other turds own who they are, while Jason will be whatever gets him access to the “in crowd”.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by dang »

heresie-dabord wrote: post #538
dang wrote: post #684

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I spent all day responding to the replies here, and then detaching them in order to save space at the top of the thread. But I just had a better idea. This is a stub comment so we have a single root to collapse the replies. This way (1) replies can stay close to their parent (the top comment) without flooding the screen with offtopicness; and (2) we can all re-experience the timeless truth of https://en.wikipedia.org…

> yet-another interchangeable flamewar You have earned my respect, dang, but this is hardly an "interchangeable flamewar". What is happening is frankly beyond anything we have ever seen before in the history of the country.

I'm not talking about the events themselves or how significant they are—I'm only talking about HN comment threads.

Often, a sequence of related stories (S1, S2, ..., Sn) produces threads that are more or less the same as their predecessors, rather than focusing on the specific new information introduced by any Si. This particularly happens when the topic is a major and divisive one, like the current one.

What happens in this cases is that people tend to post their generic views about $Person or $Topic, often in vehement terms and without much curiosity about the specific details of what's happening. In this way we get threads that don't differ very much from one discussion to the next. That's what I mean by "interchangeable".

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by gyudin »

burkaman wrote: post #472
culi wrote: post #454

> the DOGE teen is a former denizen of ‘The Com,’ an archipelago of Discord and Telegram chat channels that function as a kind of distributed cybercriminal social network for facilitating instant collaboration To be honest, this is my first time hearing about The Com. Does anyone have any more reading on this? You'd think they'd use something more secure than Discord (which has 0 encryption) and Telegram which doesn'…

Krebs has written other articles about it: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2024/09/the-dark-nexus-between-h...

Yes and he’s literally just a journalist with no real cybersecurity background

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Post by bamboozled »

picafrost wrote: post #170

I recall an aphorism that government is self-governed 90% by norms and 10% by law. I don’t know if American law is being violated but certainly it is alarming to observe from the outside when the norms are totally disregarded. The US looks unstable and untrustworthy.

What makes me sick is how the word "fraud" is being abused now too. Like those in power in the US are redefining it to mean "things I don't like". It's very dangerous.

It's incredibly Orwellian.

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Post by bamboozled »

swat535 wrote: post #356

I am wondering what will happen at the end of all of this? I see a few possibilities here: 1. Either this project will be a tremendous success for the American people, saving millions and uncovering massive fraud and waste in the government thanks to the audits 2. It will ab a complete failure, nothing of value will get discovered, published and time and money will be wasted for everyone involved (giving the DNC a hu…

It's going to be used to amass more power. "The President" makes baseless claims that everything is fraud now. "So much fraud, fraud, fraud". Everything he says is a projection.
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