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The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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> why such a rush? OpenAI alone spent $20G plus some unknown value to make the first version of it we have now. They and all the others need to justify the investment.

Pretty impressive, only $20 grand?

GAZILLION!

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Ahhh!! So that's when they added .NET to the name Visual Basic .NET

Well, Visual Basic .net is based on the .net framework, can't deny that. It's a very different language from the previous non-.net Visual Basic versions, so much that some people rather argue that "Visual Basic" is the problematic part of the name, not the ".net".

Though also interesting to note that the development team at the time didn't feel like it was substantially a different language and the first VB.NET compiler was Version 7.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Is this the absolute death of the high school essay? Even if you didn't want to cheat by avoiding ChatGPT, AI is now right there, in your word processor, and you have no way of turning it off.

Kids have to write essays with pencil and paper now. Of course they have to write in print because they stopped teaching cursive a decade ago.

No I'm not joking.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Because Microsoft just pissed away their biggest brand after Windows and maybe Microsoft. Brand recognition holds value, a lot of value. Imagine Pepsi deciding that they are done with Pepsi Max, arguably their biggest brand, after Pepsi itself, and decides that it's now Pepsi Cake. Just kill of all references to their biggest brand. That wouldn't go down well and Microsoft is only getting away with it because pretty…

Imagine killing the globally recognized Twitter brand for a single generic letter. The common denominator is ego. Office may be a globally recognized brand, but it was defined by someone else , and the person making the decision needs to mark their territory.

That's okay because everyone just calls it twitter anyway. there will be kids on twitter, calling it twitter, who were never alive when it was still named twitter

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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That was my line of thinking as well. The article pointed out that they rebranded to Office 365, then Microsoft 365 and now Microsoft 365 Copilot. The thing is, no one ever calls it anything but Office, maybe Office 365 if they're being real fancy and specifically want to refer to the subscription service. My take is that Microsoft assumed that everyone is calling it Microsoft 365, which they don't. 30 years of ownin…

I feel like there has to be some weird cultural problem at Microsoft where nobody wants to speak up about obviously bad ideas. They destroyed the entire Xbox brand overnight and hampered any chance at recovery with a stupid confusing naming scheme... now it seems like they've learned nothing from that?

99% of designers and ux people at MS aren't using Windows as their daily driver or using Microsoft tools.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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But can you explain why this feature is/was so important? The fact that there are 3rd party tools that can restore it makes it even more marginal. There are gazillions of UI changes in every app we use, it seems strange that this very marginal one should get someone up in arms. > M$ has no excuse, other than them being a completely incompetent entity of course. No, it's because "M$" doesn't think it's an important fe…

> But can you explain why this feature is/was so important? 1) It's a line in the sand between decades of customization versus "my way or the highway [third party tools, some of which get banned for 'hacking' to implement their features, all of which are generally banned in things like corporate environments]". 2) It's a customization feature that has existed since Windows 95. Removing that feature broke decades of u…

> It's a marginal feature in the number of users that used it, but those that did use it, used it for decades in many cases

Not only that, but the users who did move the taskbar are more likely to be the "power users" who will help to evangelize Windows in an organization. Those are users who Microsoft should want to keep happy. When you lose them, you lose any sort of grassroots support in an org.

It's a small change in terms of code and number of users affected. It's a big change to the affected users and in user perceptions.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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> Hate that if you use Word for Mac, you now have Copilot next to your cursor with no way of turning it off. They should put it in the bottom corner, next to an animated paperclip instead.

It's honestly disappointing and somewhat strange that they didn't go this route. IP barriers?

I don't think Microsoft is at the level of making a meme out of the marketing flagship product yet. Maybe a joke on their Twitter.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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"The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste. They have absolutely no taste. And I don't mean that in a small way, I mean that in a big way, in the sense that they don't think of original ideas, and they don't bring much culture into their products." - Steve Jobs. 1996 I guess some things never truly change. And thst kind of" culture" is how you amass a cult following (it's in the word, "cult" ure). Ou…

Well, that's not quite fair. NT is a very interesting and definitely original kernel design, for example; NTFS is a file system with unique properties, and AJAX was an API devised at Microsoft (that one absolutely lacks taste, but at least it's an original idea). That being said, I agree that the company and the brand evoke nothing but negative emotions in me, and I don't know anyone that would have anything better t…

NT is a very interesting DEC VMS clone (developed by the same team). In fact 9x was much more original design.
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