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Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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There are actually situations where U.S. citizenship can be a requirement, e.g., cleared jobs but there needs to be a really good reason like not being able to obtain clearances.

SpaceX has been through the wringer on this one, so just copy & paste from their listing: To conform to U.S. Government export regulations, applicant must be a (i) U.S. citizen or national, (ii) U.S. lawful, permanent resident (aka green card holder), (iii) Refugee under 8 U.S.C. § 1157, or (iv) Asylee under 8 U.S.C. § 1158, or be eligible to obtain the required authorizations from the U.S. Department of State. Learn…

Yeah, SpaceX needs to conform to ITAR for most of their jobs given their industry but any cleared roles require US citizenship.

That said, if Elon used Tesla employees for Twitter business, what to say that he doesn't do the same for SpaceX business?

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Yes, this is precisely what the comment thread is saying. Shmatt’s original post should shock you with its conclusion because everyone loses including shmatt.

I’m not necessarily shocked but more appalled. I’ve always wondered this - in tech there’s very little reason to believe that you need to import talent. Learning is mostly democratized these days, and I find it hard pressed to believe that there isn’t a US Citizen for literally any tech company. But they cost more hence they try to do the whole H1B process… which then comes to bite them back.

You don't go abroad and "import talent", but rather hire the intern that just graduated or have someone apply with a high recommendation from a high performer and now your in an H1B situation. They aren't posting the job on physical boards in india hoping to snag someone to come to the US (At least for FAANG).

Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Besides H1B, some larger companies require managers advertise a position before promoting people into it. This seems backwards to me, but I'm sure there's a reason for it (though I doubt the policy actually meets that reason).

For "fairness"

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Sure, but $600 washing machines for 300 million Americans is a hell of a lot more benefit than your one income.

And double yearly income for 150 million working Americans is a hell lot more benefit for them than the $600 washing machine.

Indeed. And we should absolute pick that if we are presented with those two options.

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> H1B visas suck for IT and software workers. H1b only sucks for short sighted people. Places like India would in any case have more software engineers available, than the US. Moving and hiring best of Indian engineers in the US kept teams operating in the US from being offshored wholesale. Software isn't a car, doesn't require physical transportation. An understaffed team in the US would be worth less than an offsho…

I am an individual not a corporation, our interest don't align in this manner.

They are saying that your individual salary would be lower without the additional talent.

Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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I'm about a year into a mid-effort level job search. I work in a somewhat specialized technical field and am fairly senior (I think in FAANG-ese I'd be an maybe an L7 if I understand their levels correctly). So this means I'm looking for management, director, deputy CTO or CTO positions depending on the company. I have a track record making my company lots of money, and opening up new opportunities worth many multipl…

First of all, congrats on getting a new gig! With a few minor differences, your experience is similar to my own. So, clearly, you are not alone! I will note that one other blockage that you likely encountered but maybe didn't note or focus on which has hit me (in addition to other factors you cited): agism. I have been in the workforce for a little over 28 years, and 24 of those years has been in some sort of IT or d…

I think you are right about the ageism. The company I'm moving to...I was interviewed by a group of people who are all about my age or older. They couldn't move fast enough to get the process moving, and skipped some of their hiring process to do so.

But the others, it's diabolically schizophrenic. And the problem I really have is the time wasted by all parties. Here's my specific experiences over the last year.

There was a small/med company that had an executive recruiter work very hard to recruit me. When I finally got around to meeting the leadership team, I was pretty easily the oldest among the team. By this point I had been through multiple rounds of phone and video interviews, had my background screened, references interviewed, writing samples reviewed, public speaking sample videos, compensation negotiated, everybody had already exchanged linkedin invites with me. It felt like I was basically meeting them to do a "vibe" check and set my start date. They passed, said I was "too technical" for the CTO role of this engineering company with a mandate to grow their technical business in an area I have high competency and a proven growth track record. I haven't written a line of code in anger in probably 6 years at this point.

Another one, a FAANG, specifically reached out to me to run a new office they were standing up, with a focus on growing talent. The job was almost exactly what a description of my last decade of employment has been (from that perspective). I did the personality and technical assessments and sample writing exercises followed by multiple rounds of multiple hour exhausting interviews. By the end of each of them, my interviewers were chit chatting with me about getting beers together in a couple weeks. Their go/no-go guy specifically signed off to hire me and told my recruiter to have me reach out to him when I started. Compensation was totally lined-up. Start dates were discussed. Pass, but with a strong referral to another part of the company in an area I have absolutely no competency. Easily over 100 person-hours were wasted on this exercise over two months.

I had a Googler I previously worked with specifically scout out an open position I would be good that had been open for a while, and sent my resume to their recruiter. Recruiter called me and had me take their "are you googly enough for us?" personality test. Then called back and said they were interested in talking to me for an entirely different position I have absolutely no background in. When I mentioned the referral and the specific position, the recruiter had no idea what I was talking about and said they'd get back to me. That was three months ago. I've interviewed with Google three or four times in the last ten years and to be honest, I don't think I would go there even with an offer just based on how bad the process is and honestly what they've turned into as a company.

A recruiter scouted me and put me in touch with a team at Microsoft looking for somebody like me. They didn't like me for that job, but did start me on another two openings. Did 3 or 4 rounds of interviews for both, was obviously not a good fit for one. For the other it went smashing, two of the interviewers in one of the jobs said they wished I could be their new boss. Then their boss was the final interview and passed before the call was over and was clear to let me know it. The recruiter disappeared right after the second round of interviews, and I found out they had been downsized along with one of the offices I had interviewed for. That recruiter reached out to me a month later and asked if I had any open positions for recruiters as they'd now entered into this hiring hellscape and couldn't get callbacks.

Through my network I did get an offer to start at a top-5 consulting company in my industry. They basically threw the offer at me to get me in the door. But it was very low, with no "package" in the package. So I passed.

I know it's not my resume, it's been spit polished by four recruiters, or my experience. My industry reputation is solid and even fairly well known in a couple circles. I'm almost a word for word match for some of these openings, my network is actively trying to pull me in, and these companies are reaching out to me so I know I'm good there.

For a year I've come home every night, search for open positions, and spend a couple hours applying. My only saving grace is that I'm actually in a good, very solid position right now, so there's no rush.

Only one company has ever really gotten back to me on a blind application and it's the one I'm going to.

The market is absolute hell.

Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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I have to put out a ghost job req and interview every person applying within reason for every green card a direct report is applying for. I have to show there are or aren’t any residents or citizens that can fill the job The main problem is: even if the interviewee knocks it out of the park, is an amazing engineer, I still am not interested in firing my OPT/h1b team member who can still legally work for 2-3 years. So…

Sending this to Elon... And quoting to capture the illegal activity: '''shmatt 47 minutes ago | parent | context | flag | favorite | on: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost J... I have to put out a ghost job req and interview every person applying within reason for every green card a direct report is applying for. I have to show there are or aren’t any residents or citizens that can fill the job The main…

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Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

#549

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>we receive a _ton_ of resumes that have no experience in the technologies we're hiring for. No one wants to train employees anymore.

You're right... Companies should pay mid 6 figures, as well as downtime for training. Short answer is that most corporations don't have a job in training people.

I can't tell if you're being facetious or not, but the fact is that, when Boomers and Gen Xers entered the workforce, formal training was provided for many entry-level professional positions, and even for higher junior-level ones. This was particularly so when the company was using unusual or uncommon technology. GP was complaining that "no one has any experience in our technologies." That speaks to an underlying entitlement, not just to employees' time, but to prospective employees' time. It's part of a broader shift of the cost of doing business onto everyone but the business (labor, customers, vendors, government).

Companies should pay what it costs to get people to give up a significant portion of their lives working towards their business mission, or else get out of the business.

Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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I have to put out a ghost job req and interview every person applying within reason for every green card a direct report is applying for. I have to show there are or aren’t any residents or citizens that can fill the job The main problem is: even if the interviewee knocks it out of the park, is an amazing engineer, I still am not interested in firing my OPT/h1b team member who can still legally work for 2-3 years. So…

For those who come across this type of fraud, reporting is straightforward. You can report anonymously. https://www.uscis.gov/scams-fraud-and-misconduct/report-frau... https://www.uscis.gov/report-fraud/uscis-tip-form I would also report as securities fraud to the SEC, but that is a higher hill to climb. https://www.sec.gov/submit-tip-or-complaint/tips-complaints-... (not calling OP out specifically, general guidance…

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