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Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by glonq »

davedx wrote: post #394
graeme wrote: post #138

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The iMacs very much aren't their main seller. A couple of key demographics use it though: * Families with a shared computer in a common room. Super simple to setup, no fiddling, low price. In the video Apple showcased this use case. My parents have an M3 imac and it works great. They had their last iMac for ten years. * Businesses buy these for reception areas and customers see the Apple logo on the back. Easy soluti…

My daughter's orthodontist has one of these behind every chair. Our dentist has them too. HN honestly is a terrible source of information for 1) What sells 2) What might sell

"No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame."

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by encom »

VogonPoetry wrote: post #525
baron816 wrote: post #48

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Now if only they could figure out how to allow charging the Magic Mouse while it’s being used. I guess that technology is still years away.

I think the issue is that a lightning cable and socket aren't physically designed to take the stresses of being plugged in and being used like a mouse at the same time. I've not measured it, but I could believe there is probably quite a bit of repeated vertical and sideways stress on a wired mouse's cable where it joins to the mouse body.

Apple charging cables aren't designed to be plugged into anything. Their cables are notoriously terrible. I had a lightning cable on my nightstand that I plugged my phone into at night a few times a week. After less than two years the connector had developed cracks. Inexcusable.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by Nition »

RomanPushkin wrote: post #511

> iMac features a color-matched keyboard and mouse or trackpad... These accessories now come with USB-C ports, so users can charge all of their favorite devices with just a single cable WOW!

I used to have a cheap Acer keyboard that had two USB ports in the back, so it acted as a little bonus USB hub that you could plug extra stuff into. Great for quick USB drive transfers; you could even plug in your mouse there.

For a second I thought that's what Apple meant here. But they just mean you can plug in the device itself.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by dlivingston »

Mainsail wrote: post #501
DeathArrow wrote: post #111

Apple makes some dubious claims: > Gamers can enjoy incredibly smooth gameplay, with up to 2x higher frame rates5 than on iMac with M1. What games do run on the Mac? Certainly, most AAA titles do not. >Compared to the most popular 24-inch all-in-one PC with the latest Intel Core 7 processor, the new iMac is up to 4.5x faster. You can build PCs there are more powerful than that Mac, cheaper. And you can easily repair…

Games I play on my M1 Macbook Air: - BG3 - CIV - Stardew Valley - Football Manager - Subnautica - XCOM - ARMA 3

Stray and Myst for me!

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Post by Mistletoe »

SurgeArrest wrote: post #530

Reading this on 2017 iMac 27" - is the first 5k iMac that couldn't be used as a monitor after the computer inside is irrelevant. I hope EU will push for some law that requires all AIO computers to work in monitor-only mode if internal hardware is no longer good enough or no longer supported by software updates. I love the 5k screen on this iMac but the CPU is too old for photo or video editing as software got so much…

Don’t landfill it please sell on eBay or locally. Crazy people like me that love the monitors and just surf the web will buy them. I was awestruck the other day how much I would have to spend to exceed the monitor quality on our ancient iMac. I bought a modern 4k one and it was still worse. They really put the magic in those old 5k monitors.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by throwaway48476 »

gpm wrote: post #537
dllu wrote: post #474

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Using a large 8K display for productivity is underrated. I wrote a blog post about my experience: https://daniel.lawrence.lu/blog/y2023m12d15/

> AMD Linux drivers > Unfortunately, as of writing, AMD GPUs do not have HDMI 2.1 so you cannot use an 8K TV in 8K 60 Hz mode unless you use a DisplayPort to HDMI adapter. Interesting workaround! This hadn't occurred to me at all as a solution when I read about the HDMI 2.1 driver licensing issue. Edit: Added "AMD Linux drivers" to quotation.

This is wrong. I have used a AMD 6600XT with 8K 60hz VRR over HDMI.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by IndrekR »

js2 wrote: post #275
piinbinary wrote: post #11

It's frustrating how disposable these are designed to be edit: e.g. screen replacements cost nearly as much as the entire computer

I commented elsewhere, but my uncle is on his third iMac in 30 years. He keeps them a decade at a time. My father is still using an Intel iMac. Normal people do not upgrade their computers after purchase. Displays are generally not something that fail. These machines are capable of providing a decade or more of service to normal people.

First iMac was released in 1998.

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Post by rootusrootus »

mmaunder wrote: post #518
RomanPushkin wrote: post #511

> iMac features a color-matched keyboard and mouse or trackpad... These accessories now come with USB-C ports, so users can charge all of their favorite devices with just a single cable WOW!

Oh thank god. Not a day goes by when I'm not thanking the powers that be in Europe for pressuring Apple to add USB-C to iphone.

People say this as if Apple hadn't already been adding USB-C to their iOS devices for several years. There were pretty good reasons for holding off USB-C for the iPhone. It was likely to alienate a good number of customers.

I doubt Europe had anything to do with the timing.

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Post by viraptor »

shalmanese wrote: post #251
DeathArrow wrote: post #116

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> 16GB base RAM, they finally did it. I've paid €200 for 128GB RAM in my PC. How much does Apple charge for 128GB of memory?

How much does it cost you to buy a GPU with 128GB of RAM on it?

We'll know soon https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amds-strix-h...

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Post by jmspring »

rootusrootus wrote: post #548
mmaunder wrote: post #518

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Oh thank god. Not a day goes by when I'm not thanking the powers that be in Europe for pressuring Apple to add USB-C to iphone.

People say this as if Apple hadn't already been adding USB-C to their iOS devices for several years. There were pretty good reasons for holding off USB-C for the iPhone. It was likely to alienate a good number of customers. I doubt Europe had anything to do with the timing.

"good reasons"? What would be those?
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