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US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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One major effect of this is that weed stores will be able to use banks and payment processors legally once the regulators catch up.

Will they? Since it will be Schedule III, “weed stores” that aren't pharmacies distributing properly labelled drugs to people with prescriptions will still be violating the Controlled Substances Act and will probably have the same banking problems.

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

#542

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> you can imagine who works at them This is disgracefully elitist. White collar crime hurts more people.

I see why you would say that, but you probably have not met very many people who work at a dispensary, I have. My brother got promoted to supervisor in a month for the simple reason that he is the only person who could wait until after work to get high. He’s told me quite a bit of what goes on there, and I am sure different dispensaries are different, but in any state where it is relatively recently legalized and the…

I as a customer an hour ago had a long conversation with a friend I made behind the counter.

Some software engineers do partake of the weed. So yeah I’ve met them.

Tattoos, piercings? They’re just people.

Getting high isn’t a sign of larceny

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

#543

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My brother supervises at a dispensary. They are not attractive robbery targets at all. They have a lot of security. Like a bank, they expect the amount of cash would bring trouble if they were not prepared. Unlike a bank, they don't dispense much cash (just petty change) so they don't even have to leave much in the drawers, which are emptied frequently and dropped into a safe nobody there can access. They have cash-h…

> you can imagine who works at them This is disgracefully elitist. White collar crime hurts more people.

The federal illegality of the weed business (and downstream effects of that illegality on working/business conditions) affects who works there, and that includes white collar employees (also investors, etc.)

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

#544

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You described a worst-case scenario. I’d rather smoke Marlboro Greens, and I promised myself 20 years ago I’d never spend another penny with them.

the marlboro man has traded in his horse and cowboy hat for some natty dreads and a gravity bong. Joe Camel now sports a wook blanket and a heady crystal wrap. can't wait to see what the overly happy and diverse Newport pleasure party goers have adopted

You must not have seen the same Newport ads I did

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

#545

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Its super weird how america can make things half legal. In canada the responsibilities are divided up between different levels of government. None of this legal at one level but not another level bullshit.

The same is true in Canada. There are things that are federally illegal that are not illegal at the provincial level. There are also local laws that supersede federal law. E.g. There is no federal law against woodburning for home heat, but many local jurisdictions have banned it for air quality reasons, and provinces also have pollution laws. You can have something be illegal in one town, and legal outside of it, or…

> There are also local laws that supersede federal law. E.g. There is no federal law against woodburning for home heat, but many local jurisdictions have banned it for air quality reasons, and provinces also have pollution laws

That's not what supersede means.

There is no federal law about wood burning stoves because the constitution assigns environment to the provinces.

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

#547

Great news. A very sound move. Indeed, marijuana is much less dangerous of a drug yet considerably harmful in cases of chronic use in unreasonably high doses therefore should be controlled some way. What seems problematic nowadays is teenagers smoking too much. Also the idea of stoned people driving cars sounds scary. To me it seems it should be as available and legal as alcohol and cigarettes are, no less, no more.…

"Also the idea of stoned people driving cars sounds scary. " Depends how stoned, but people routinely drive while using medication that affects them far more than being a bit stoned.

i think driving is probably already dangerous enough without adding cannabis or any other psychoactive into the mix

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

#548
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Great news. A very sound move. Indeed, marijuana is much less dangerous of a drug yet considerably harmful in cases of chronic use in unreasonably high doses therefore should be controlled some way. What seems problematic nowadays is teenagers smoking too much. Also the idea of stoned people driving cars sounds scary. To me it seems it should be as available and legal as alcohol and cigarettes are, no less, no more.…

The biggest problem is not the self-harm aspect but rather the social ramifications. Regulations and social expectations of where you can smoke should be as-strict as tobacco smoking, if not more since weed is just so much more stinky.

Stinky is very qualitative. Maybe you grew up around tobacco smokers and so don’t mind the smell? I hate it.

Quantitatively, marijuana smoke is less carcinogenic than tobacco smoke.

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

#549

There you have it, the administrator themselves saying they believe in myths about cannabis: It’s a gateway drug; while simultaneously ignoring that the drug killing people, fent has a perfectly causal gateway drug in vicodin/percs > Jack Riley, a former deputy administrator of the DEA, said he had concerns about the proposed change because he thinks marijuana remains a possible “gateway drug,” one that may lead to t…

It is a gateway drug. When marijuana is illegal you have to get it from drug dealers, who have an incentive to upsell you to harder stuff. Make it legal and that gateway goes away.

In my experience, the weed dealers aren't the same dealers as the guys moving the harder stuff. If you can get meth from a guy, he can probably get you coke too. But your weed guy probably can't get you either. At least, IME with NYC dealers.

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

#550

Feels like they were keeping this card in their sleeves for when they needed a popularity boost.

It is a good thing for democratically accountable governments to do good things that the people want!

That logic doesn't really hold. I'll speak generally and not about this specific administration:

If the was doing good things that the people wanted during the entire term, then they would not need to resort to moves like this alleged one when the vote is coming up. It's only if they're not doing good things that the people want that they would dangle something shiny to the electorate.

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