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This is a whole other level than "worked up" - speaking of lifetimes - 12 people have died over it . Did you read it?
We're talking about a guy and his ancestral home. Is he the reason 12 people died?
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But almost everybody wants access to one. This is coming from someone who lived a a kilometer away from the main airport of Istanbul at the time[0], for a long time. I was really disappointed when it was closed as the benefit of access was 100x better than the noise cost. Of course, everybody has different priorities and getting a huge noise source in your backyard after you decide to call a piece of land your home w…
Eh. As someone who used to travel a lot living 50 miles from the airport was a bit of an inconvenience but certainly one I could live with. Just took a bit longer to get to the airport. I wouldn't have wanted to live next to it.
Living close to a small, poorly-connected airport would be far less convenient than living further away from a major airport.
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Part of it is our definition of cities versus metro areas. Boston's population is technically only 650k but Boston proper doesn't even include Cambridge which is like not including one of the boroughs when talking about NYC's population. Granted, we still have a lot less metro areas with over 1 million people but there are still ~50 of them.
Is this something fairly unique to the US or do other countries do this too? that is, having a city boundary that's relatively small compared to the metro area.
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There is no other definition of London, the city. There's the Greater London region, which is 9m people, but that's it. Parliament, for example, is in the City of Westminster, one of 32 boroughs which (+ the City) make up Greater London.
When normal people talk about a city, they're talking about an urban area under the jurisdiction of a mayor and city council. that's exactly what "greater london" is, so when people talk about a city called London it's safe to assume they mean the 32 boroughs. "the city of london" is just a confusingly named area inside a city called "London", it's not a city.
There's been discussions where the "next" airport should go in the Seattle region, and the consensus is that nobody wants it. The State Legislature created a commission to try and identify some potential sites, but the public backlash was so great that they ended up submitting it's final report with no actual recommendation. One of the interesting ideas (that was proposed even back when SEA was adding it's third runw…
> One of the interesting ideas [...] is to run high-speed rail to Moses Lake Airport in Central Washington and just expand there. While reading this article, I thought about something like that too. Build an airport quite a while away from the big city, and provide a high-speed, maybe even maglev train there. Make it free for customers. Also, make it very inconvenient for passengers and staff to approach the airport…
They wanted to do that in Munich
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I went digging out of curiosity, and it seems you are correct. According to this article [1], around 80 of the top 100 airports have rapid transit connections. [1] https://www.ptua.org.au/2015/10/29/busiest-airports-rail/
Melbourne’s airport is very annoying when compared to Sydney. To get to the CBD you have to go and stand outside to wait for a bus that comes every ~15 minutes and takes half an hour to get there (or pay an exorbitant price for a taxi or Uber), whereas in Sydney you’ve got a direct train that gets to the city in 15 minutes.
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I tend to travel pretty light but trains get inconvenient with any amount of luggage. I'm coming into NY by ship after a longish trip, continuing on home by train at the end of May. I came to the conclusion I should take advantage of a not too expensive luggage shipping service because dealing with the luggage was going to be just too big of a hassle.
How very 1800s of you. Curious minds wonder what you do to be able to have that kind of time for travel. The amount of time you require in just travel is more than most Americans receive in a year's vacation
In developed countries outside the US annual multi-week vacations are routine for the middle classes
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There is no other definition of London, the city. There's the Greater London region, which is 9m people, but that's it. Parliament, for example, is in the City of Westminster, one of 32 boroughs which (+ the City) make up Greater London.
When normal people talk about a city, they're talking about an urban area under the jurisdiction of a mayor and city council. that's exactly what "greater london" is, so when people talk about a city called London it's safe to assume they mean the 32 boroughs. "the city of london" is just a confusingly named area inside a city called "London", it's not a city.
Normal people where?
London has only had a mayor since 2000. Each borough has its own council, there is no London council.
You don't know what you're talking about and you're projecting (North) American ideas onto other countries.
> so when people talk about a city called London it's safe to assume they mean the 32 boroughs.
Except it's not. Colloquially, some borough are not considered to be in London. Bromley, for example.
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Airports because of noise have plenty of space nobody else wants so building out isn't an issue.
The exact issue under discussion is "We can't build airports where people can get to them because of how big loud and annoying they are". I am proposing a mitigation aka problem solving.
> And an airport can’t be too far from a city and remain useful, since travelers need to access the city, workers need to be within commuting distance, and so on. In Canada, Mirabel airport was built 35 miles from Montreal, surrounded by a 79,000 acre buffer zone to prevent any issues of incompatible land use. Mirabel was expected to replace Dorval (today Montreal-Trudeau) as Canada’s main eastern airport, but, in pa…
Montreal isn't the only city that failed with a too-far-away airport. Tokyo built Narita against much local opposition (they still check your ID before you're allowed inside the airport, to make sure you're not an angry local resident), and the opposition resulted in not being able to build the transport link they wanted (the Narita Shinkansen). The result is a good hour wasted on conventional rail to get to Tokyo. (…