This is a dupe, see here for more discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39300679
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Please anyone correct me if I'm wrong: LLMs cannot solve this kind of riddle. This has nothing to do with their capabilities for logical reasoning, but with the way words are represented as tokens. While they might know that "apples" has two syllables because that is mentioned somewhere in their training data, if you make up a fruit "bratush" a human will see that as two syllables, but this might be 1 to 7 tokens to…
The amazing thing about emergent behavior in LLMs is that they are able to answer questions like these. I don't think it is completely understood how exactly they do this, but there's little doubt that they do.
Do you have any sources that prove this is true?
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I think that logic is the most important thing to look out for though.
I just tried some logic puzzles on the Advanced model, and was not impressed. It feels much worse than paid ChatGPT.
keep in mind that all the common logical puzzles have probably been tried hundreds of times by chatgpt users and are now part of the training set.
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#544Damn. Even more censored than GPT. My gf is a model and I use GPT all the time to write the alt text descriptions of her photos, but it balks regularly on things like lingerie photos. Same crap with Gemini: "Sorry I can't help with that image. Try uploading another image or describing the image you tried to upload and I can help you that way."
What's your current preferred method to generate images of your gf? ComfyUI combined with a Stable DiffusionXL checkpoint?
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#545This is a dupe, see here for more discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39300679
That submission was a link to the (uninformative) signup page, and the discussion is mostly about the link being uninformative and/or not working. This one is at least an announcement :)
That's a good point. I've merged the comments hither. Thanks!
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#546In the 20 minutes of experimentation, I'm really impressed with the quality of Bard Advanced (Gemini Ultra). The results are as good as GPT-4, and in some cases is better. So far: pros: - better at translation (tried Chinese and Japanese idioms to English) - better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing cons: - slightly worse at coding - censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times abo…
so I have done a lot of transcripts, coding, one versus the other (gpt4 vs ultra). Often simple prompts like refactor this code or convert this python to typescript. My experience is that Gemini ultra understands the code better, but doesn’t always give me as complete of results (they seem to limit output length more) Beyond that it is very smart. I’ve had to tell me this code packs 12 bit integers into different par…
> That said, I have fed thousands of lines of code into both of them and asked them to refactor it, and neither one of them made more than one error. All code otherwise compiled and worked first try.
I would be very interested to get a more detailed scope of what you did here. Feeding thousands of lines of code into GPT4 and getting a near perfect refactor does very much NOT sound like my experience, but it seems highly desirable.
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#547> Your conversations are processed by human reviewers to improve the technologies powering Gemini Apps. Don’t enter anything you wouldn’t want reviewed or used.
I appreciate them being upfront with that, but for a paid feature, it sucks that they offer no privacy or opt-out mechanism.
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Image generation isn't available in Europe.
Or in the US. I get the same "can't create images yet, here's a description ..." message. I asked Google where I am and it had the correct city that is very much in the US. This is using Gemini Advanced.
Can you share which prompt you're seeing this with? A chat share would be amazing. (Disclaimer: I'm a PM on Gemini)
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#549I’ve been pretty excited to finally try Gemini advanced. So far pretty disappointed. Here’s my go-to test question - which even chat gpt 3.5 can get. Question: I walk up to a glass door. It has the word push on it in mirror writing. Should I push or pull the door, and why Gemini advanced: You should push the door. Here's why: * Mirror Writing: The word "PUSH" is written in mirror writing, meaning it would appear corr…
I got a different answer with GPT 3.5
> If the word "push" is written on the glass door in mirror writing, it means that from the other side of the door, it should be pushed. When you see the mirrored text from your side, it indicates the action to be taken from the opposite side. Therefore, in this scenario, you should push the door to open it.
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This is what i get from Gemini: You should pull the door. Here's why: Mirror writing: While the word "push" is written on the door, it's in mirror writing. This is a common way to indicate that the action needed to open the door is the opposite of what's written. Safety: Mirroring the word "push" on a pull door is a safety measure. This helps prevent people from pushing against the door, potentially causing injury or…
Better - but it has not understood the message is for the person on the other side. It thinks that it’s actually mirror writing intended to confer the opposite meaning than written. And then waffles of about door safety for ages.
Honestly, I don't see why this counts as the model getting things wrong, since in your prompt you don't specify which side of the door the text is printed on.