Raspberry Pi 5

Post by IE6 » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 2:55 PM UTC

nine_k wrote: post #524

IE6 wrote: post #483

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I agree with you about dev boards but I think their post was focused on things like used NUCs or other small x86 machines that are only marginally larger than a Pi in an enclosure and include literally everything you'd want (enclosure, pwa fan, SATA SSD, NVMe, wifi, etc.) and the software support is there (linux / windows).

How about power consumption, especially in when not under load? I remember that Intel chips were not as efficient at it as chips with ARM cores.

Post by willis936 » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 2:57 PM UTC

mbreese wrote: post #502

SparkyMcUnicorn wrote: post #482

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Would active cooling work underneath another hat?

It looks like the M2 socket will be connected with a flexible ribbon, so it is possible that it could be mounted below.

Post by yjftsjthsd-h » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 2:58 PM UTC

lproven wrote: post #292

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #181

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All I want is UEFI so we can stop having per-device images. Is that so much to ask?

The master CPU of the Rasberry Pi 1-4 is the VideoCore GPU, not the Arm. The "firmware" is the now-Microsoft-owned, proprietary, ThreadX RTOS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThreadX The Arm doesn't start the computer and you can't run any firmware on the Arm that will change this.

Post by yjftsjthsd-h » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 3:02 PM UTC

dmitrygr wrote: post #202

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #181

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All I want is UEFI so we can stop having per-device images. Is that so much to ask?

rPI went from armv6 to armv7 to armv8. CortexA76 does not even support using 32 bit kernels. Rp1 requires an armv6 32 bit kernel. There is NO kernel build on earth that would run on both an pi1 and a pi5 and no amount of efi would help. (I am ignoring the possibility of custom nasty hacks to make a polyglot kernel). We’ll have per-device images until we standardize on a single architecture or at least a subset of one…

Post by fanf2 » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 3:08 PM UTC

agloe_dreams wrote: post #539

impalallama wrote: post #516

Surprised by the amount of negativity here. So many comments that are saying the raspberry pi isn't competitive in their market anymore and then post more locked down less open systems at 2x the price.

I mean, keep in mind that the Pi5 is a $60 device with ~$60+ of support hardware (Power supply, cable, miniHDMI to HDMI, Cooling, Case, Storage) You can get considerably more powerful mini PCs for less than a 4GB Pi5 with needed accessories that is upgradable, has further software support, and includes all of what you need to get with a Pi. Also, you are reducing eWaste.