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Post by csallen »

vansid wrote: post #314
afavour wrote: post #234

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I couldn't disagree more. I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great, and the fact that they're heavily branding it with Instagram, using Instagram logins etc suggests to me that they're just looking for another angle to vacuum up user data. Maybe I'm unusual but the accounts I follow on Instagram and Twitter do not have a huge amount of crossover so the fact that their onboarding process tries to…

> I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great What made Twitter great?

It's easy for random people on HN and elsewhere to armchair quarterback, and act as if they know for sure what makes Twitter tick. But they don't have access to the data, and they have no experience building or running a massive social network. (The same goes for me. Take all I say with a grain of salt.)

My guess is there is no single answer to what makes Twitter great. It has so many niches and sub-niches that it's completely different for most people. It's a bit like Reddit, but without formal or visible boundaries between communities.

And the network effects are so strong at this point that it's hard to unravel. Musk can make a million mistakes, and Zuck can launch a million alternatives but they aren't going to succeed in convincing the most powerful Twitter users in each community from abandoning the audiences they've cultivated. And as long as they're there, everyone else will be, too.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by carstenhag »

22c wrote: post #340
john_max_1 wrote: post #172

When was the last time, Facebook launched a successful standalone product? - WhatsApp - acqusition - Instagram - acquistion - Messenger - acquisition - Oculus - acquisition Facebook has DNA to optimize feeds. It, simply, lack the DNA to build good products from scratch. My gut feeling no one will care about Threads, 6 months from now. EDIT: - Facebook was all-in on cryptocurrencies. The project is fully gone. - Faceb…

Reels and Stories, while directly ripped from TikTok and Snapchat have probably taken quite a bit of market share from each of those apps from people who already use Instagram as their main platform. I suspect this has some potential to keep users who were getting FOMO on Instagram from signing up to Twitter.

In my social circle (Germany), Snapchat is completely gone, Instagram stories dominate. Some people use Instagram reels, but most use TikTok.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by [deleted] »

dmix wrote: post #412
gochi wrote: post #268

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There's two channels here. From a user perspective "what made Twitter great" is also the least attractive parts for any other company to try and mimic. The absurd levels of pornography, the anonymous fan and joke accounts. From a business perspective, "what made Twitter great" was the easy to digest brands, the non-anonymous accounts sharing their day, and journalists/other named professionals providing up to date in…

> "what made Twitter great" was the easy to digest brands, the non-anonymous accounts sharing their day, and journalists/other named professionals You should be in sales lol, just sell the B2B folks on ads and sign them up for multi-year deals like Spotify, by selling a tiny set of uber celebrities and brand names that no one gives a shit about enough to switch platforms. Forget what the users are doing which is post…

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Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by mjhagen »

babl-yc wrote: post #446
solarkraft wrote: post #312

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> After trying Mastodon for a few months, it's certainly not it. Why?

From my experience: - Feed was purely chronological (no algorithmic feed) so I missed a lot of content - Sign-up process isn't obvious due to decentralization - Likes, profiles sometimes had bugs or required extra clicks if from other servers - Few people I follow migrated from Twitter, and most have since stopped posting due to lack of engagement

The pure chronologic feed is why I used Tweetbot and is why I'm on Mastodon.

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Post by Tepix »

rayxi271828 wrote: post #153
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

I hope Threads won't exhibit the same hostility towards the users as IG does. (What's up with IG and its hostile UX? Videos can't be fast forwarded or tracked at all, profile pictures can't be zoomed, clicking on it brings you to stories, images can't be copied easily, etc.)

Not to mention that you're only allowed a single hyperlink.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by Tepix »

stubybubs wrote: post #183
john_max_1 wrote: post #172

When was the last time, Facebook launched a successful standalone product? - WhatsApp - acqusition - Instagram - acquistion - Messenger - acquisition - Oculus - acquisition Facebook has DNA to optimize feeds. It, simply, lack the DNA to build good products from scratch. My gut feeling no one will care about Threads, 6 months from now. EDIT: - Facebook was all-in on cryptocurrencies. The project is fully gone. - Faceb…

Marketplace dominates used goods in my area. I don't think it matters that it's not "standalone," it was a new area and they grabbed the market share. Running threads off IG has a good shot too.

Here in Germany, it's a non factor. Most people below 25 or 30 don't even have facebook any more.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by frankacter »

john_max_1 wrote: post #454
john_max_1 wrote: post #172

When was the last time, Facebook launched a successful standalone product? - WhatsApp - acqusition - Instagram - acquistion - Messenger - acquisition - Oculus - acquisition Facebook has DNA to optimize feeds. It, simply, lack the DNA to build good products from scratch. My gut feeling no one will care about Threads, 6 months from now. EDIT: - Facebook was all-in on cryptocurrencies. The project is fully gone. - Faceb…

To add more examples of standalone apps that failed 1. Facebook Gaming app - https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/30/meta-shutting-down-facebook-gaming-app/ 2. Facebook livestreaming app - https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/05/meta-testing-livestreaming-platform-influencers-super/ 3. Facebook Events - https://www.theverge.com/2016/10/7/13192918/facebook-events-app-ios-android

Facebook gaming is huge platform that exists within the Messaging platform. While they may have consolidated from a standalone app to a service in an existing platform, that is not a "fail" by any measure.

The same goes for Facebook Events, which is hugely popular within the Facebook platform.

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Post by jadamson »

xu_ituairo wrote: post #162
bin_bash wrote: post #10

WSJ really did a great job with this headline: https://www.wsj.com/articles/mark-zuckerberg-looks-to-delive...

What’s the joke?

Probably a reference to the cage fight that's totally going to happen:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/01/technology/elon-musk-mark...

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Post by GenericDev »

Lisieshy wrote: post #318
coolandsmartrr wrote: post #285

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Twitter is a much better social network in Japanese than in English. You are more likely to encounter people who want to discuss hobbies than being trolls. I think they'll stick to the end, just like the Titanic. Making the jump seems a little challenging right now. Some Japanese people have tried Truth Social, even dominating the trends with Japanese keywords. I'm not sure if they'll stick there given its context wi…

If you don't know about it, then https://misskey.io/ is an extremely good Twitter alternative that is almost exclusively used by Japanese people. A lot of Japanese artists and others are eager to make the switch from Twitter too. Also, Twitter isn't the best place to confirm if there is an earthquake anymore, since the website is completely private if you don't have an account. I use https://unnerv.jp/about/more inst…

Very interesting! I would like to join, but I need an invite code. Do you know where I can get one of these?
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