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I'm a middle school teacher in Europe. None of my students use Facebook. They even don't use Whatsapp that much anymore. FB has a big problem.
What do they use instead of Whatsapp?
Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset
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Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset
#542There is something quite remarkable and puzzling about the VR/AR and now SC (spatial computing) space. All major (ad)tech companies are convinced that this is a major market that will materialize and be profitable if the right combination of hardware and software is developed. Their VR "visions" differ but only at the margin. No matter how you execute it, we are talking about people (homo sapiens) putting a major som…
I took my headset off and it was like he had just left the room. I think that being able to provide the feeling that someone you love is there with you (when they are far away) is why people use a lot of tech.
It was a feeling that 2d FaceTime just cannot give you (and it felt like a bigger advancement than going from a phone call to video calls).
If Vision Pro’s face reconstruction thing works well I can see that being the killer app.
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This feels like a technology that will be ‘ready’ in ten (twenty?) years, but to dismiss it now a) feels unimaginative and b) precludes that from ever happening. Do I want to wear big goggles? No. Do I, one day, want a device that can magically project anything I want on to my field of vision, and for it to be as realistic as my actual vision? Hell yeah I do! And we can’t get there unless we go through the ski goggle…
I alreday feel exhausted when I walk my town because there's so many information to process: front of shops, advertising, road signs, people, cars, bikes, nice buildings,... If I had to add yet antoher layer of information on top of that, it would be exhausting. Now, if I was someone who works in construction, I'd be happy to have glasses that add the position of eletrical wire in the wall where I'm going to drill a…
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Not to mention how dry your eyes would be from wearing that thing for hours, like seriously, why is no one talking about that?
Why would your eyes be drier? If anything they'd be more moist because there's less air movement around them right?
Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset
#545There is something quite remarkable and puzzling about the VR/AR and now SC (spatial computing) space. All major (ad)tech companies are convinced that this is a major market that will materialize and be profitable if the right combination of hardware and software is developed. Their VR "visions" differ but only at the margin. No matter how you execute it, we are talking about people (homo sapiens) putting a major som…
I'm currently seeing it like the introduction of the ipad. At first I was snarky about "what is this even for? It's way too expensive. Why would anyone use one? It's just a big phone" And they were mainly bought by people with disposable income. Where as nowadays tablets have become a staple and it's very common to own one, and often not own a computer. I ate my words. So at the moment there's a few players in the VR…
Little did I know that the iPad would slowly take away my time spent on my iPhone. So now I have a $1000 iPhone that I don't use that much (except when not at home), and I have an additional $750 iPad I spend 4+ hours / day on.
Not sure what happened, but I couldn't go back to just my iPhone anymore.
Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset
#546Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset
#547There is something quite remarkable and puzzling about the VR/AR and now SC (spatial computing) space. All major (ad)tech companies are convinced that this is a major market that will materialize and be profitable if the right combination of hardware and software is developed. Their VR "visions" differ but only at the margin. No matter how you execute it, we are talking about people (homo sapiens) putting a major som…
My first try with a VR headset was in 1994, with DOOM. Since then my opinion has hardly changed that these are gimmicks, and mostly unusable by people with eye sight issues, where already dealing with natural light is an issue, let alone tiny screens a couple of cms away.
For good measure, this was also the time of the Mosaic browser.
I think three decades is enough to suspect that if there was some unique added value from the VR concept (that goes beyond some very small niches), it would have been adopted more broadly, even with imperfect technologies.
Future developments (~5-10 yr) in other parts of the digital universe may bring use cases that are currently not visible to people with limited imagination. But usually short-termist corporates launching major products here-and-now does feel a bit odd to me.
Who knows, time will certainly tell.
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Apple’s implementation appears years ahead of anyone else. Just the way iPhone was when introduced. Back in the day Nokia, Siemens, Blackberry, Palm and Ericsson had smartphones that you could do everything that iPhone could do or even more. These were devices that only those who have to use it or those who are techno nerds used it. When Apple introduced their implementation of smartphone, those who were using the de…
Is it really the same though? I can see how this is proposing a different approach on how to present VR but apart from tech folks nobody seems to care. Where on iPhone case from day 1 one could tell it was actually really really useful. And you also have to consider the price tag as well, I can think about many things that I would spend money on first even if I had those 3500 dollars. Maybe I'll change my mind when I…
This was exactly the same when the iPhone was introduced. Only tech folks could tell it was actually really really useful. Other people were just like "So browsing the internet o a phone is better now. But why would I need to browse the internet one a phone?"
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That's fine with him, he doesn't want to make profits from the hardware.
Most of the software profits are on IOS as well. I think you must know this, so I’m not sure what the angle is you’re playing.
And paid apps are slowly going away and are less relevant - it's been many years since mobile app peaked. Top apps these days in play store and app store are free.
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I'm sorry, but buying things on the internet wasn't laughed at, if anything people were worried about it cause of their credit card numbers. It was that basis of the dot com boom of the late 90s. Everyone saw the potential and lashed money into it. It didn't deliver at the time, but that dynamic is totally different to vr headsets. Think smart phones, they weren't pushed, people wanted them in a serious way
The simplest contrast is ChatGPT vs VR right now. OpenAI is up to over a billion of users and hundreds of millions of subscribers in There is no demand for VR outside gaming. Efforts to try and create that demand are failing.