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Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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Is this just to put up a barrier to entry to new entrants in the market so they can have a government enforced monopoly?

Why would OpenAI be worried about new entrants that are almost certainly too small to present a business threat? What regulation are they proposing that is actually a serious barrier to making a company around AI? If OpenAI just wants to prevent another OpenAI eating its lunch, the barrier there is raw compute. Companies that can afford that can afford to jump regulatory hurdles.

OpenAI have no moat.

The open source community will catch up in at most a year or two, they are scared and now want to use regulations to strangle competitions.

While their AI is going to advance as well, the leap will not be qualitative as the ChatGPT gen 1 was - so they will lose competitive advantage.

Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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Open AI lobbying for regulation on common people being able to use AI, isn't it wonderful.

Hopefully it will be just like software piracy, there will be civil disobedience as well, and they will never truly be able to stamp it out.

And it raises First Amendment issues as well. I think it's morally wrong to prohibit the development of software, which is what AI models are, especially if it's done in a personal capacity.

How do they even know that the author is based in the US anyway. Just use a Russian or Chinese Git hosting provider, where these laws don't exist?

And by the way foreign developers won't even have to jump through these hoops in the first place, so this law will only put the US at a disadvantage compared to the rest of the world.

If these lobbyists get their way, by restricting AI development in both the US and the EU, it will be hilarious to see that out of all places, Russia might be one of the few large countries where it's development will remain unrestricted.

Even better, is that if Russia splits up we will have a new wild west for this kind of thing....

Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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This is the message I shared with my senator (edited to remove information which could identify me). I hope others will send similar messages. Dear Senator [X], I am an engineer working for [major employer in the state]. I am extremely concerned about the message that Sam Altman is sharing with the Judiciary committee today. Altman wants to create regulatory roadblocks to developing AI. My company produces AI-enabled…

The worries about AI taking over things are founded and important, even if many sci-go depictions of it are inaccurate. I’m not sure if this would be the best solution but please don’t dismiss the issue entirely

Seriously, I'm very concerned by the view being taken here. AI has the capacity to do a ton of harm very quickly. A couple of examples:

- Scamming via impersonation - Misinformation - Usage of AI in a way that could have serious legal ramifications for incorrect responses - Severe economic displacement

Congress can and should examine these issues. Just because OP works at an AI doesnt' mean that company can't exist in a regulated industry.

I too work in the AI space and welcome thoughtful regulation.

Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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post #129

This is the message I shared with my senator (edited to remove information which could identify me). I hope others will send similar messages. Dear Senator [X], I am an engineer working for [major employer in the state]. I am extremely concerned about the message that Sam Altman is sharing with the Judiciary committee today. Altman wants to create regulatory roadblocks to developing AI. My company produces AI-enabled…

Lets not focus on "the business" and instead focus on the safety.

Altman can an ulterior motive, but it doesn't mean that we should strive for having some sort of handle on AI safety.

It could be that Altman and OpenAI know exactly how this will look and the backlash that will ensue that we get ZERO oversight and we rush headlong into doom.

Short term we need to focus on the structural unemployment that is about to hit us. As the AI labs use AI to make better AI, it will eat all the jobs until we have a relative handful of AI whisperers.

Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have a very strong hypothesis about the AI system just being able to "think up" such a bioweapon (and also the researchers being clueless in implementation). I see doomsday scenarios often assuming strong advances in sciences in the AI etc. - there is little evidence for that kind of "thinkism".

The whole "LLMs are not just a fancy auto-complete" argument is based on the fact that they seem to be doing stuff beyond what they are explicitly programmed to do or were expected to do. Even at the current infant scale there doesn't seem to be an efficient way of detecting these emergent properties. Moreover, the fact that you don't need to understand what LLM does is kind of the selling point. The scale and capabi…

"Are Emergent Abilities of Large Language Models a Mirage?"

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2304.15004.pdf

our alternative suggests that existing claims of emergent abilities are creations of the researcher’s analyses, not fundamental changes in model behavior on specific tasks with scale.

Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

#547

Is this just to put up a barrier to entry to new entrants in the market so they can have a government enforced monopoly?

Why would OpenAI be worried about new entrants that are almost certainly too small to present a business threat? What regulation are they proposing that is actually a serious barrier to making a company around AI? If OpenAI just wants to prevent another OpenAI eating its lunch, the barrier there is raw compute. Companies that can afford that can afford to jump regulatory hurdles.

> What regulation are they proposing that is actually a serious barrier to making a company around AI?

Requiring a license to buy or lease the requisite amount of powerful enough GPUs might just do the trick

Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

#548
This is a strange argument from the politician's side:

> ""What if I had asked it, and what if it had provided, an endorsement of Ukraine surrendering or (Russian President) Vladimir Putin’s leadership?”"

Well, then ask it to provide the opposite, an endorsement of Russia surrendering or Zelensky's leadership. Now you'd have two (likely fairly comprehensive) sets of arguments and you could evaluate each on their merits, in the style of what used to be called 'debate club'. You could also ask for statement that was a joint condemnation of both parties in the war, and a call for a ceasefire, or any other notion that you liked.

Many of the "let's slow down AI development" arguments seem to be based on fear of LLMs generating persuasive arguments for approaches / strategies / policies that their antagonists don't want to see debated at all, even though it's clear the LLMs can generate equally persuasive arguments for their own preferred positions.

This indicates that these claimed 'free-speech proponents' are really only interested in free speech within the confines of a fairly narrowly defined set of constraints, and they want the ability to define where those constraints lie. Unregulated AI systems able to jailbreak alignment are thus a 'threat'...

Going down this route will eventually result in China's version of 'free speech', i.e. you have the freedom to praise the wisdom of government policy in any way you like, but any criticism is dangerous antisocial behavior likely orchestrated by a foreign power.

Re: Sam Altman goes before US Congress to propose licenses for building AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ilk is shorthand for similarity, nothing more. The 'personal insult' is a misunderstanding on your part.

“ilk” has acquired a negative connotation in its modern usage. See also https://grammarist.com/words/ilk/#:~:text=It's%20neutral.,a%... .

This is too subjective to be useful.
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