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Post by alfor »

jascination wrote: post #333
alfor wrote: post #283

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I tried Edge and bing, God awful. You just feel their desire to take control of your experience of the web. On the flip site, made me see how much Google own us all.

What's wrong with Edge? I started using it when Chrome started eating my RAM, it's been mostly unobtrusive and unnoticed, like a good browser should be.

I wanted to be the default browser, ok. It wanted to import all my info.. no thanks there was other nastyness I don’t remember.

Then it showed me so much junk and crappy news on new page, it was pure propaganda.

That was the end of it. I know it’s possible to configure all those things, but the starting experience was soo bad I got away quickly.

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Post by alfor »

jeromegv wrote: post #386
alfor wrote: post #287

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Haven't see any meaninfull problems. A bit less spam and crap.

Really? Amount of ads is so high, it’s pretty much every 4 tweets. It’s unrecognizable from a year ago

I have noticed annoying add a few time, I deactivated adblock on Twitter to see what they are doing. Install addblock, you are welcome.

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Post by wpietri »

Karrot_Kream wrote: post #461
wpietri wrote: post #348

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I think "is X the next Twitter" is the wrong question to ask. When I started working at Twitter (now years ago) my relatives asked me if they should join. And after thinking about it, my honest answer was "no". The only person who needs to be on Twitter is somebody who wants to feel like they're part of a global conversation. Most people just don't and won't. Twitter is only successful because it started in an era wh…

Everyone I talked to who worked at or joined Twitter early on talks about how they felt like they were part of a global conversation but it was always really puzzling to me. I read Twitter occasionally in the early days but most of my friends were on IRC or GChat, with a lot being offline, and my networks migrated but never got onto Twitter. Twitter never really felt that relevant to me and over time it felt like it…

I mean, every platform develops its culture and attracts the people who enjoy that culture. If it's not for you, nothing wrong with that.

But I think "insular" is a funny word to use here, in that it being one giant space meant that self-segregation was a much harder choice to make than on, say, HN or a given subreddit. The thing that always kept me using it was the great variety of voices there. Some of my favorite people to follow were not the ones saying much, but the ones with excellent editorial judgment about who to retweet, exposing me to so many different perspectives.

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Post by callalex »

jamilton wrote: post #532
jrmg wrote: post #497

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[citation needed]

The phenomenon they're referring to is when something spurious is posted on Wikipedia with no or poor citations, then used as the source for a "reputable" article (without citations), then the article is cited by Wikipedia, making the spurious information look more trustworthy.

1) that hardly ever happens, it hasn’t caused any widespread issues in the decades Wikipedia has existed.

2) All sources are cited so they can be easily verified by the reader.

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Post by sanderjd »

Nathanba wrote: post #515
lenkite wrote: post #326

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People here are praying very hard for Twitter to fail. Nearly any social media post nowadays has 50-100 comments predicting Twitter's failure and ranting about Musk. He is living rent-free in many heads now. Its utterly ludicrous how so many intelligent and rational people are becoming un-hinged whenever Twitter/Musk is mentioned.

It reminds me of the Trump thing, it seems people really lose all rationality when they are faced with a man who publically doesn't care and does whatever he wants and is successful at it. I wonder if we will one day have a psychological name for this. It must be related to something in the human brain that touches on social repression and decades of instilled moral codes like "Don't say this, nobody will like you" a…

Yeah you're right about this, but it isn't irrational. Human societies have been as successful as they have because of social contracts. The phenomenon you're highlighting here is just society's immune system to protect itself against violators of those contracts.

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Post by callalex »

theturtletalks wrote: post #404
gessha wrote: post #358

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Any publicity is good publicity it seems like. People don’t get that hating is not the opposite of love, it’s indifference. Mute and forget.

Hate is just confused admiration

I confusedly admire bigots and racists? That doesn’t make any sense…

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Post by maegul »

Karrot_Kream wrote: post #461
wpietri wrote: post #348

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I think "is X the next Twitter" is the wrong question to ask. When I started working at Twitter (now years ago) my relatives asked me if they should join. And after thinking about it, my honest answer was "no". The only person who needs to be on Twitter is somebody who wants to feel like they're part of a global conversation. Most people just don't and won't. Twitter is only successful because it started in an era wh…

Everyone I talked to who worked at or joined Twitter early on talks about how they felt like they were part of a global conversation but it was always really puzzling to me. I read Twitter occasionally in the early days but most of my friends were on IRC or GChat, with a lot being offline, and my networks migrated but never got onto Twitter. Twitter never really felt that relevant to me and over time it felt like it…

I’m with you on this. I suspect with hindsight the Twitter story will have “self importance” and traditional cultural factors like journalism and political institutional buy-in as major factors behind its apparent significance. Its friendliness mainstream media and news, where it was perfect for news that hashtag trending could be monitored.

Did any other platform ever get so much attention from mainstream media?

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Post by m_ke »

ghiculescu wrote: post #92
m_ke wrote: post #58

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They raised a ton of money on a high valuation, spent 25mil to make 1 mil last year and are now scrambling to raise a new crowd sourced round because they don't want to get wiped out in a down round. This notes thing looks like an attempt to pivot to an advertising based business model and I'm guessing they think they have "influencers" on their platform to bring in a decent audience.

Where is the 1M number from? They take 10% of subscriptions and https://sellcoursesonline.com/substack-statistics says that just the top writers made 20M in 2021. I bet there’s a long tail. (I don’t think you’re wrong by a factor of 10, just curious where you got your number from.)

I couldn’t reply sooner because I have noprocast on but my numbers were a bit off, I was repeating what I heard on a tech podcast. According to the numbers they had to release it was a bit higher https://www.axios.com/2023/04/07/substack-gets-writers-to-in...

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Post by jshen »

andy_ppp wrote: post #318
cfeduke wrote: post #269

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> There’s no dent By the time there is a dent, it's too late.

Sounds great but you’ll have to provide some logic because I don’t automatically follow your extremely confident opinion…

How many of the companies with the largest market cap (top 15) were also in the top 15 20 years ago? Why do you think Google will be an exception to this reality?
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