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Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by illiac786 »

chrisseaton wrote: post #533
illiac786 wrote: post #517

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Can you give some examples of parts of the UK constitution that are debated as much? If you don’t write it down, no debate, no consensus, everyone believes what suits his life style best. I am not saying writing it down is foolproof. “Write down a piece of document and don’t touch it for 200 years” is definitely not a good idea, it should be updated regularly. But if given the choice today of writing down or continu…

It’s not ‘verbal’ - I’m not sure how you think the UK works? It’s precedent. > a clear process for the document to be regularly edited and updated Sounds like you’re thinking of law or code rather than a constitution?

Precedence is written down, I find it acceptable. It’s a good way to make sure the “constitution” evolves.

Multiple persons above refer to “constitution” as being a set of “beliefs”, “values” and “traditions”, I was pointing out that this is not a good solution in my view.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by ploppyploppy »

phpthrowaway99 wrote: post #378
austinjp wrote: post #327

The UK media (not just the BBC) continue to profess "amazement" at the speed and efficiency of the transitioning from a dead monarch to a living one. There's been much speaking in awed tones at the pace of the various proclamations, committee meetings, document signings, etc, as if this pace tells us why we should be impressed. Personally I've found it borderline sickening. If there was a curtain that could have slip…

You say it's not okay. I say it is. Unless you have something more this is basically just a random opinion stated as if it wasn't an opinion.

GP's is such a bizarre and over-the-top take on what's happening. It honestly doesn't deserve so many replies

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by ploppyploppy »

noncoml wrote: post #177

“Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government” And no, I don’t mean it as a joke If Britain wants to survive the next 100 years, they need to make some brave decisions. Dissolve monarchy and the class system, get back into EU, and hope Scotland will not declare independence. Also, USA, wtf, why are you flying the flag at half staff? Did you forget what you fought about in 17…

Half-baked, predictable and virtue signalling nonsense.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

#544

Post by chrisseaton »

illiac786 wrote: post #541
chrisseaton wrote: post #533

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not ‘verbal’ - I’m not sure how you think the UK works? It’s precedent. > a clear process for the document to be regularly edited and updated Sounds like you’re thinking of law or code rather than a constitution?

Precedence is written down, I find it acceptable. It’s a good way to make sure the “constitution” evolves. Multiple persons above refer to “constitution” as being a set of “beliefs”, “values” and “traditions”, I was pointing out that this is not a good solution in my view.

Precedence is what happened before. The UK constitution is based on precedence.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by NonNefarious »

NonNefarious wrote: post #450
phpthrowaway99 wrote: post #378

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You say it's not okay. I say it is. Unless you have something more this is basically just a random opinion stated as if it wasn't an opinion.

As if it WEREN'T an opinion. But I agree with your sentiment.

Uh-oh, some anti-literacy infants have modded me down. Up with ignorance, right?

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by NonNefarious »

morelisp wrote: post #501
NonNefarious wrote: post #449

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoted post unavailable.

Are the arrests also nothing more than pageantry? I'm pretty sure they're going Real Jail.

I'm not talking about arrests.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

#547

Post by elenaferrantes »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #332
afarrell wrote: post #197

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It is because humans have an irrational tendency towards sycophancy. This was true throughout both the Obama and Trump administrations and before them. Better to direct that impulse towards a dignified institution that does nothing but attract tourists and occasionally signal society’s values than towards something that tries to have efficient and lethal decision-making power.

Wait, is this satire? Surely we should resist our less productive qualities, like sycophancy. Not try to channel it to some "worthy cause".

We’re not robots

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by morelisp »

brutusborn wrote: post #538
morelisp wrote: post #489

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By the standards of the question in the US the monarchy did not transition power at all , and per the article it's not exactly happened peacefully, so what exactly is your point?

I think the point is that the Monarchy provides a stability mechanism, which is generally why its supporters like it. However I could be misinterpreting the comment.

Consistently this Schroedinger's Monarchy defense.

"The queen has no real power." OK, then why have her?

"Monarchy provides stability in case of... something." Ah, so she does have power!

The real pageantry/cosplay is how we're supposed to pretend a hereditary leader, ceremonial or otherwise but also given that we're discussing people being arrested definitely actually otherwise, isn't totally fucked up.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

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Post by acjacobson »

brutusborn wrote: post #539
noncoml wrote: post #177

“Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government” And no, I don’t mean it as a joke If Britain wants to survive the next 100 years, they need to make some brave decisions. Dissolve monarchy and the class system, get back into EU, and hope Scotland will not declare independence. Also, USA, wtf, why are you flying the flag at half staff? Did you forget what you fought about in 17…

What do you mean "dissolve the class system"? I know the UK has a lot of old money but I can't imagine a way in which this could be "dissolved" peacefully.

I would assume he is referring things like the House of Lords and the hereditary title system - not economic class.

Re: Anti-royal protesters are being arrested in the U.K. as 'Not My King' tag grows

#550

Post by morelisp »

NonNefarious wrote: post #546
morelisp wrote: post #501

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are the arrests also nothing more than pageantry? I'm pretty sure they're going Real Jail.

I'm not talking about arrests.

But the GP obviously is.

> under the protection of the police and with the consent of multiple international media outlets, and expect public passivity and capitulation.

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