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The end of the manual transmission is near?

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Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

#541
Yes it is archaic - very crap in traffic but I never had any mechanical issues with a manual gearbox needing replacement in any of my cars except for normal wear and tear of the clutch plate.

Any quote involving a DSG or automatic gearbox from the VW/Audi/BMW is like buying a good second hand car.

No thanks - like my farm implement.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

#542
post #523

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Because the world does not revolve around the US. But certainly it's hard for anyone to realize that when they've been brainwashed for an entire century that they live in the greatest country in the galaxy.

Then don’t read American publications and get mad when they are taking about America.

Yeah I might as well quit reading anything written in English online because a bozo says there's only one country in the world we should care about and the rest need to stfu.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

#543

Manual transmissions are dead. I grew up learning to drive a manual transmission car. Awesome. I loved the feeling of driving and shifting gears up the hilly, mountainous, twisty horrible roads in Jamaica. Exhilarating! But cars got better. I got older, and now automatic transmissions are so much more efficient than manual transmissions * for ordinary people *. We're not talking about people who love driving here. We…

Huh? I haven't seen or heard of anyone I know driving an automatic transmission car since 2005 or so, and that was a bizarre oddity at the time.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

#545
In a couple decade gasoline cars wont really be a thing. Everyone will drive EVs. If it's smart to burn gasoline to generate power, they powers that be will build large plants to far more efficiently burn the gasoline.

Tesla didn't get a transmission mainly because they put enough power and low end torque would blow up any transmission that hit weight and size specs they needed to do.

However, a manual trans can be in an EV. It just doesnt make sense, there's virtually no situations where you want to be out of gear.

Flipside, this is a huge adoption hurdle for me. I need my manual trans.

I love the idea of a manual trans ev wrangler: https://www.motortrend.com/news/jeeps-magneto-concept-wrangl...

But my understanding is that it's not happening.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

#546
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Okay but then why is the rolling brick wall of a modern pickup allowed?

Because they're not classified as passenger vehicles, so they don't have to meet the same standards.

I understand, but a modern pickup truck comfortably seats 6 in its King Cab (and good luck finding a truck without a King Cab) and has a bed that is useless for carrying anything except maybe your gym bag or a dozen cases of empties. There is no doubt the purpose of a modern pickup truck is as a passenger vehicle and secondarily to provide an advertising medium for you political beliefs.

The fact that modern American passenger vehicles have evolved into statistically significant deathtraps for surrounding pedestrians, cyclist, and even smaller cars is as political as anything else in that country these days.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

#547

Yes it is archaic - very crap in traffic but I never had any mechanical issues with a manual gearbox needing replacement in any of my cars except for normal wear and tear of the clutch plate. Any quote involving a DSG or automatic gearbox from the VW/Audi/BMW is like buying a good second hand car. No thanks - like my farm implement.

Our clutch plate needed replacing earlier this year. We paid 50% of that was the cost of labour. 20% of that was the cost of replacement gearbox oil

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

#548
post #352

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I drove a manual for about 20 years and I still really enjoy them, but there is one thing that made me happily leave them behind: stop-and-go traffic. Not having to clutch constantly when driving in the city is a big enough win that I'm willing to give up the fun of a manual for it. But I do sometimes miss having a stick on a windy mountain road.

I currently use a (automatic) borrowed car from the shop while my (manual) car is being repaired. I mostly do city-driving. One of the biggest issues with the automatic is stop-and-go traffic. It's absolutely trash at accelerating smoothly but fast, and I have no choice but to either go very slowly forward to not make it janky, or really aggressive acceleration. With a manual car, smooth-but-fast acceleration is easy…

Audi Q3 does not have a representative modern automatic transmission.

You should try a car with a CVT from the last 2-3-ish years to feel the difference.

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

#549
I think it might be. My youngest sister is currently learning to drive and the default option in the UK is to learn to drive a manual car. But what's the point? Petrol engines will eventually be illegal to buy and then at some point illegal to own. It's much faster and cheaper to learn to drive automatic cars, so why not?

Re: The end of the manual transmission is near?

#550
post #523

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the world does not revolve around the US. But certainly it's hard for anyone to realize that when they've been brainwashed for an entire century that they live in the greatest country in the galaxy.

Then don’t read American publications and get mad when they are taking about America.

I can read American publications and get mad when they are talking about America without indicating that they are talking about America. It's like me declaring that it's perfectly legal to cross the road wherever you like - unless I qualify that by saying what jurisdiction that refers to, then it's just confusing bad advice for a proportion of people reading who might not actually notice that it is.

I have similar grumbles whenever a publication uses the phrase "in the country", and I have to go and investigate which country they mean.

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